FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 2 SUNDERLAND. Match thread

[Citizen's Nephew]

I don't think your comments on Ramsey are fair but there's some garbage on that pitch including that donkey Diedhiou. Turnbull was signed because Bulut doesn't rate Colwill and then he's realised Turnbull is worse. I don't want Bulut getting another transfer window, his signings have been dreadful.

Just got back from the game Pedro. Ramsey's done. Gave the ball away around three times within the first 10 minutes of him coming on and is a set-piece player now at best. Pretty much a continuation of the Swansea performance.

Sunderland were a good watch tbh. Played some decent football. Nothing else to report. Apart from the most exciting part of the day was a load of us and Sunderland fans sheltering in the bus depot during a downpour.

[D. Advocaat]

Just got back from the game Pedro. Ramsey's done. Gave the ball away around three times within the first 10 minutes of him coming on and is a set-piece player now at best. Pretty much a continuation of the Swansea performance.

Sunderland were a good watch tbh. Played some decent football. Nothing else to report. Apart from the most exciting part of the day was a load of us and Sunderland fans sheltering in the bus depot during a downpour.

Some discussion on Radio Wales as to whether Ramsey should now retire from international football. The more realistic question is whether he should retire from playing full stop. Anyway, don't want to knock Rambo, the problem today and all season has been a complete lack of footballing strategy, and that comes from the manager.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Just got back from the game Pedro. Ramsey's done. Gave the ball away around three times within the first 10 minutes of him coming on and is a set-piece player now at best. Pretty much a continuation of the Swansea performance.

Sunderland were a good watch tbh. Played some decent football. Nothing else to report. Apart from the most exciting part of the day was a load of us and Sunderland fans sheltering in the bus depot during a downpour.

Perhaps he is done. I'm not going to write him off just yet though.

[Blooburd]

people critiquing Ramsey really should look at the excuses they give some of the duff players in our squad. Ramsey has just come back from a long injury..clearly not match fit and has a LOT of roles on his shoulders when he comes on. Bit of logic and you can see we shouldnt be pinning our hopes on Ramsey...yet

[Citizen's Nephew]

people critiquing Ramsey really should look at the excuses they give some of the duff players in our squad. Ramsey has just come back from a long injury..clearly not match fit and has a LOT of roles on his shoulders when he comes on. Bit of logic and you can see we shouldnt be pinning our hopes on Ramsey...yet

When was the last time Ramsey wasn't just coming back from injury? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aaro.../spieler/50057