Sunderland Sleeping Giant

[Des Parrot]

When people argue about club's and their history, trophies and success cannot be taken in isolation. By Des Parrot's argument Cardiff's 1927 FA Cup win won't count soon as it will be over 100 years ago!

Sunderland have been League Champions 5 times and won the FA Cup twice. So 7 major trophies. They have won the league title more than Spurs (who have only won it twice) and more than their local rivals Newcastle. Both of them claim to be huge clubs.

I’ll stick with my definition of comatosed. They won 3 of their titles in the 19th century while Queen Victoria was alive and another 2 before WW1 (or City joined the league). They had good years in 1936 & 1973, that’s it 2 good years since WW1. Great crowds no argument but on the pitch arguably, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Wolves, Derby, Huddersfield, Burnley and others have achieved more.

[The Prophet of Doom]

I’ll stick with my definition of comatosed. They won 3 of their titles in the 19th century while Queen Victoria was alive and another 2 before WW1 (or City joined the league). They had good years in 1936 & 1973, that’s it 2 good years since WW1. Great crowds no argument but on the pitch arguably, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Wolves, Derby, Huddersfield, Burnley and others have achieved more.

Cardiff won their only trophy before the Wall Street Crash - it does not mean it is not our history!