Reply With QuoteSeveral times a season.Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
QPR have a crap atmosphere despite most games being close to a home sellout and having a tight compact stadium with stands very close to the pitch.
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Yes but not every one
How about you ?
Several times a season.
QPR have a crap atmosphere despite most games being close to a home sellout and having a tight compact stadium with stands very close to the pitch.
But that's them
580 at Birmingham last night
The ones that went are great fans but that's a poor away support for us
Being as it's only the upper tier of the Ninian that is unpopulated for games, how is that any worse than having fresh air above a stand there?
Empty seats look shocking in the numbers we have them
Ive not followed all of this thread but it's morphed into the atmosphere at CCS then all I would say is that the atmosphere is absolutely gash and all the empty seats do look bad.
You can hear the empty seats? Or are you just stirring up apathy?
A half empty ccs looks crap to the fans and it deffo looks crap to the playersYou can hear the empty seats? Or are you just stirring up apathy?
That is a viscous circle with regards to the atmosphere
You get 15 k in the 20 k liberty tin shack and it can be rocking
If the Liberty was 25k it would still be rocking. It's not as if a 25k seater stadium would let atmosphere escape more than a 20k stadium.
Have people forgotten that we played in a ~27k stadium before the Ninian extension?
The stadium was rocking the Saturday night we beat Swansea. I doubt their ground has been rocking when they’ve lost at home recently to QPR, Plymouth etc.
You need to ask TBG about atmospheric escapes , nothing to do with me
If you LOOK around the CC stadium on match day with 18 k in there as a fan and as a player you are facing an uphill battle before the game even kicks off
It's really simple to understand
I could deal with that
25 k would have been better but there you go
20 k crowds in 27 k capacity ?
Sensible enough
But unless we are doing well .....ie Premier league ......the support simply isn't there
And it never will be if we are being honest with ourselves
I know a bit about acoustics. I know that our ground now has an upper tier in the Ninian stand but is basically the same size as before with that stand being a bit taller.
15k in our ground making a noise would sound the same whether that tier was there or not.
You’ve missed the point.
Our performances and atmosphere weren’t better pre Ninian extension because of the stadium size. Likewise performances and atmospheres haven’t dropped off a cliff since due to an extra tier being stuck on.
Acoustics are like statistics
Absolute bollocks in the hands of a clown
The atmosphere was certainly better with 20 k in a 27 k capacity stadium
It's like a couple with no kids living in a house with 4 empty bedrooms
Why are some of our fans so fecking dense ?
Lol
Well there's two chumps on here , one reason for the pair of you being so cabbadged is that you are clearly being deliberately obtuse to argue that 20 k crowds in a 27 k stadium would provide the same sort of atmosphere as 20 k in a 32 k stadium which is what we have now
Not many in here today ......the fans groan as they take their seats
And there's plenty of them
It’s a fact that we averaged 30,000 plus in 18/19 and sold out a few times - clearly, the ground is not big enough for some games.
If you include 20/21 when people had to watch the games from home, we’ve had four seasons of losing football at Cardiff City Stadium now and I’d say the performance levels by City have been garbage for about eighty per cent of those eighty odd matches - is it any wonder that the atmosphere is as bad as it’s been recently?
Bang on the money
It’s what happens on the pitch, that makes the atmosphere as bad or as good as you want
12000, 15000 or 20,000 fans in a stadium will generate enough noise and passion if there watching entertaining football.
The idea that seeing fewer fans there is going to affect a players performance is laughable
Most couldn’t give a toss about anything, if they did, we see more effort and bottle than we have seen all season.
With the crowd roaring them on, does anyone think the likes of Bowler would do anything else other than adjust his Alice band a bit more?
Would Wintle turn into an intelligent footballer who can pick a pass out?
It’s an entertainment business and it’s up to the players being directed by the coach to bring the excitement to the game
That’s what gets the crowd going, regardless of how many are actually there
Players are actors, quite literally in many cases
When they run out into ccs on a cold Tuesday night and there's 15 k in a 32 k seater stadium if you think that doesn't hugely contribute to poor performances and a cycle of poor atmospheres then you are also on the list of nutcases
If the ground was built for us to maximise income from sell out crowds then given we have only had two seasons of anything approaching decent gates .....ie when we were in the Premier league .....out of over a decade and a half then it's been a bit of a damp squid 🦑
It's been a damp squid because the football has been dead boring in recent times and we've now reached the stage as well where we're more likely to be involved in relegation fights than promotion ones. Are you arguing that attendances would be the same if we were a side that played entertaining, often winning, football at home and lost virtually all of our away matches hence we were finishing in more or less the same position as we do now? I'd be absolutely amazed if home crowds were still as low as they are now, but, even if they were, the atmosphere would be better than it is now because people were being entertained.
For me, this game is up there in the top twenty best City matches in the new stadium and there was a great atmosphere in the closing minutes that afternoon - the attendance was 10,961.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...up/8474352.stm
So, master of all knowledge, explain to me how the empty bedrooms make any difference to the atmosphere in the living room? Should be fun, this....
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