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life on mars
Hamas slaughtered 1,260 innocent peace loving festivals goes, including rape , mutilation of women and the death of babies , bear in mind now these are no radical Jews ..
Almost totally wrong. 364 festival goers were killed on 7 October, along with over 340 IDF soldiers and others, mainly Israeli citizens in border kibbutzim. IDF soldiers in border posts have been shooting dead hundreds of unarmed Palestinian protestors for years without any diplomatic or judicial penalty. A large minority of those killed were victims of indiscriminate Israeli shell and helicopter fire - as has since come to light through the Israeli print media and television. 37 of the dead were aged under 19 (6 were aged 5 or younger).
Hamas was guilty of atrocities on 7 October - probably including rape and certainly civilian deaths and kidnapping. But the weeks after 7 October were full of Israeli 'atrocity porn' propaganda that cited 40 butchered babies, dismemberment of pregnant women and many other horrors. The US and other states parroted these claims for a while - then distanced themselves from the lies. Hamas's (and the others who followed them through the fence) real actions included war crimes. As did Israel's on the day and in the 7 months since.
Gaza innocent are dying not becasue of Israel its because of Hamas a terrorist organization hidden cowardly under schools , hospitals under the ground of innocent people some probably protect them .
Gaza's people are dying because the Israeli state is killing them. It is very simple and clear. The death toll (including those under the rubble) is near 45,000 with almost 100,000 injured (some seriously disabled). 70% are women and children - alongside medics, nurses, journalists, aid workers, police trying to distribute food and thousands of other non-combatants. Disease and starvation (Israeli government policy) may well kill the same number again.
Hamas are a guerrilla resistance movement totally outnumbered (20 to 1) and outgunned. Of course they are acting like all guerrilla armies in history. A third of their fighters are dead in the face of overwhelming odds. You are looking in the wrong direction for cowards in this conflict.
Gazza folk starve , Hamas leaders are very rich and well fed and funded its a disgrace s,very sad for innconcets only a rout will clear them out like the Nazis in the WW2 .. AWFUL .
The senior political leadership of Hamas lives in exile - often in comfort and security. Their members do not. They get funding from Qatar and Iran - but were also funded and promoted by Israel (especially Netanyahu and Likud) in their early days to undermine the secular Fatah/PLO (and also promoted to maintain a split between Palestinian parties and territories after 2007)
Hamas kill as many Palestinians as the Israelites do , instead of arming , feed you people or is it easier to lean on the WORLDS HATRED OF THE JEWISH STATE AND PEOPLE
More incontinent nonsense. Whether Hamas hold arms or build tunnels it has been the Israelis (with some help from Egypt) who have decided what food, water, power, medicines, jobs.... etc are available for the people of Gaza, not Hamas (who distribute resources and maintain the civil infrastructure as far as possible). Israel has conducted a seige of Gaza since 2005-7. Nothing much gets in or out (bar smuggled items) without their say so.
From the river to the sea is about annihilation of a people and state just pick up the philosophy and statements of the likes of Syria , Ira, Hamas etc etc ...
'From The River To The Sea' has been used as a slogan for almost 50 years. When Palestine protestors around the world chant 'From The River To The Sea Palestine Will Be Free' they are chanting for peace and justice in the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Many of those chanting in London, New York, Paris and dozens of other places are Jews themselves. When Hamas and other Islamist actors have used the phrase in the past they have usually done it to call for the end of the Jewish Supremacist state (and replacement with an Islamic state). There has been an overtone of threat to Jewish citizens of Israel - but that is usually 'read in' to the slogan. Since 2017 Hamas have (albeit with contradictions between different spokespeople) accepted the principle of a two state solution with a Jewish Israeli state (including second class Arab citizens) alongside a Palestinian state based on the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. When Netanyahu and Likud (and others to their political right) use the phrase -never with western censure - they mean a single Jewish Supremacist state with Palestinians ethnically cleansed or reduced to a small 'guest worker' population.
Like or or not it seems the persecution of the Jews is sort of waved away in many quarters compared to islamophobia , Black peoples racism , homophobia hatred .. they are pretty far down the league in my humble view
In my experience you have described the exact opposite of reality!
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