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    Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Stay or Go

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    I'd prefer a new manager with a more positive approach but aren't bothered if he stays as it means a period of relative stability.
    Polls like this aren't helpful IMHO as they can't capture the whole picture of how fans feel about the current situation and the "quality" of football on offer.

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    Go. He hasnt made us as better defensively as some are suggesting. Hes turned a few losses / draws into wins - more by luck than judgement in my opinion, I mean the Southampton game was a joke we should, not could, have been at least 4 nil down half time - and we are probaby 12-15 points better off than our performances have warranted. Weve been very, very lucky to amass the points we have and I dont attirbute that to Buluts coaching

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    Go. He hasnt made us as better defensively as some are suggesting. Hes turned a few losses / draws into wins - more by luck than judgement in my opinion, I mean the Southampton game was a joke we should, not could, have been at least 4 nil down half time - and we are probaby 12-15 points better off than our performances have warranted. Weve been very, very lucky to amass the points we have and I dont attirbute that to Buluts coaching
    Yes it's all luck

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Stay

    We are not leeds or Leicester, we need a period of treading water

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
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    We are not leeds or Leicester, we need a period of treading water
    Even after a period of treading water I suspect we are not a Leeds especially in terms of fanbase - not even a derby who are in our league next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody's Rep View Post
    Even after a period of treading water I suspect we are not a Leeds especially in terms of fanbase - not even a derby who are in our league next year
    We are not even a Norwich or Ipswich

    That doesn't me We can't be ambitious but at present I think a few tweaks to the squad might put us in contention for the top 8 and then anything can happen

    I think we are halfway there with bulut and it seems like armchair manager on here clammering for a change after we look like finishing mid table

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Stay, otherwise I worry we'll have Darren Purse, Tom Ramsult and/or the tea lady.

    If we were guaranteed a proper manager I'd at least be on the fence.

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    I think he’s done well all things considered and probably deserves a new deal. Personally though if I owned the club I would certainly look at the options first. Points wise great, but the performances have generally been poor, we sit far too deep imo and I’ve been frustrated that the youngsters have never really been given a shot until the mass injuries.

    The other concern is who they would appoint.

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    Go. Definitely. 100%.

    "We need stability," some claim. Under Bulut, I'm fairly certain stability will equate to more tedious, sterile mediocrity. Of course, there are those among us who actively embrace mediocrity, but it should be noted that some of loudest in that respect never actually go to matches, so they don't have to watch the garbage that is being served up on a regular basis.

    If Bulut ends up staying (and I believe he will), I sincerely hope the entertainment levels will increase, and significantly, but based on the raft of evidence from this season, I very much doubt they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Go. Definitely. 100%.

    "We need stability," some claim. Under Bulut, I'm fairly certain stability will equate to more tedious, sterile mediocrity. Of course, there are those among us who actively embrace mediocrity, but it should be noted that some of loudest in that respect never actually go to matches, so they don't have to watch the garbage that is being served up on a regular basis.

    If Bulut ends up staying (and I believe he will), I sincerely hope the entertainment levels will increase, and significantly, but based on the raft of evidence from this season, I very much doubt they will.
    If he does stay then the football won't get better, how can it, he has a way of playing and I don't think he will ever deviate from that. The only crumb of hope is if he can identify a group of players who can implement what he wants. It will still be tedious, but maybe affective.

    People on here going on about someone like josh Bowler getting doubled up on and things just fizzing out,saying how can that change with any player we have. It can, Bulut might not care about Bowler or whoever getting doubled up on or isolated, but he might want a player who has the intelligence to get something out of a situation like that. A free kick, even a throw in or a corner. People make the mistake of thinking that a wide players role is to just go past a defender. The other thing is that when Bowler was doubled up on there's a space left because someone has come out. Bulut may want a midfield player with the intelligence to exploit that space.

    I want him gone, I can't even watch games anymore, they vote me senseless. Although I do believe that Bulut is tactical, and he's no dummy, he just has this awful way of playing football.

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Go. Definitely. 100%.

    "We need stability," some claim. Under Bulut, I'm fairly certain stability will equate to more tedious, sterile mediocrity. Of course, there are those among us who actively embrace mediocrity, but it should be noted that some of loudest in that respect never actually go to matches, so they don't have to watch the garbage that is being served up on a regular basis.

    If Bulut ends up staying (and I believe he will), I sincerely hope the entertainment levels will increase, and significantly, but based on the raft of evidence from this season, I very much doubt they will.
    Entertainment is subjective, finding joy often requires a shift in focus from seeking mere entertainment to embracing the things that bring true fulfillment.

    You've been going to the city a very long time, i doubt for most of that, it was ever the actual football.

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Entertainment is subjective, finding joy often requires a shift in focus from seeking mere entertainment to embracing the things that bring true fulfillment.

    You've been going to the city a very long time, i doubt for most of that, it was ever the actual football.
    No, I’ve been bored stiff for most of this season. If you’d have told me back in August we’d get around fifteen more points and finish about ten places higher, I would have assumed the entertainment factor would be much higher than the previous season, but, with two or three exceptions, I’ve seen no great difference from 22/23 except we’re scoring from corners again - I’ve never liked teams that play with just one genuine attacking player in home games and that’s not changed because it’s my team that's now doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    No, I’ve been bored stiff for most of this season. If you’d have told me back in August we’d get around fifteen more points and finish about ten places higher, I would have assumed the entertainment factor would be much higher than the previous season, but, with two or three exceptions, I’ve seen no great difference from 22/23 except we’re scoring from corners again - I’ve never liked teams that play with just one genuine attacking player in home games and that’s not changed because it’s my team that's now doing it.
    As stated, it's subjective, but I don't recall you ever being so outspoken (although you do blog, so I might need to double-check) about the concept of 'entertaining' football until now. From what I remember, our team hasn't been playing exciting football for years, and now Bulut seems solely responsible for some dramatic change in style (that never really existed did it?). Did he sh1t in your hat?

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    As stated, it's subjective, but I don't recall you ever being so outspoken (although you do blog, so I might need to double-check) about the concept of 'entertaining' football until now. From what I remember, our team hasn't been playing exciting football for years, and now Bulut seems solely responsible for some dramatic change in style (that never really existed did it?). Did he sh1t in your hat?
    I know you've asked Bob, but here's my answer anyway.

    For me it's a culmination of years and years of dross, hard to watch, boring football. It's not specific to Bulut, but he is the straw that broke the camels back. I am done, I cant take no more. Others have a stronger threshold and thats fine, I have been called negative for wanting to see better, thats fine.

  16. #16

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by OurManFlint II View Post
    Entertainment is subjective, finding joy often requires a shift in focus from seeking mere entertainment to embracing the things that bring true fulfillment.
    Very philosophical, but it's football we're talking about here, nothing more.

    I don't know about you, but I'd like to watch a Cardiff City side that looks genuinely better than the opposition once in a while. I'd like to see the team do some crazy stuff like score three or more goals in a game occasionally, or beat their opponents by two or more goals now and then - things Bulut's boys haven't managed in six long, tedious months.

    I've been watching City for almost fifty years. During that time I've seen plenty of really poor Bluebirds sides and numerous seasons have proved a tough watch due to the lack of quality on display. However, I genuinely can't remember another season in which a City team produced such sterile, insipid football on such a regular basis. Bulut's approach is not only boring but borders on cowardly at times - the home games against Leicester and Leeds being the prime examples.

    I've long since passed the point where the results matter a great deal to me. The re-brand saga changed my outlook significantly and I'm sure age is playing its part too, but I'm at the stage now where I just want to see some decent, progressive, entertaining football once in a while. Judging by the numbers of empty seats at the CCS in recent months, I can confidently say I'm not alone in feeling that way.

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Very philosophical, but it's football we're talking about here, nothing more.

    I don't know about you, but I'd like to watch a Cardiff City side that looks genuinely better than the opposition once in a while. I'd like to see the team do some crazy stuff like score three or more goals in a game occasionally, or beat their opponents by two or more goals now and then - things Bulut's boys haven't managed in six long, tedious months.

    I've been watching City for almost fifty years. During that time I've seen plenty of really poor Bluebirds sides and numerous seasons have proved a tough watch due to the lack of quality on display. However, I genuinely can't remember another season in which a City team produced such sterile, insipid football on such a regular basis. Bulut's approach is not only boring but borders on cowardly at times - the home games against Leicester and Leeds being the prime examples.

    I've long since passed the point where the results matter a great deal to me. The re-brand saga changed my outlook significantly and I'm sure age is playing its part too, but I'm at the stage now where I just want to see some decent, progressive, entertaining football once in a while. Judging by the numbers of empty seats at the CCS in recent months, I can confidently say I'm not alone in feeling that way.
    Back on 8 February2022, we beat Peterborough 4-0 at Cardiff City Stadium and a week later, we followed it up by beating Coventry 2-0 at home. Since then, we’ve played fifty four times in the league at home and only once in that time have we scored more than two in a game (when we beat Coventry 3-2 around six months ago). For more than two seasons the closest thing we’ve had to doling out a thrashing to any one in own stadium has been in four 2-0 wins (all our other home wins since February 2022 have been by single goal margins). Strangely, it’s been the wurzels (twice) and the jacks who have been on the end of three of these “batterings”, with what’s widely considered the worst Championship team in years, Rotherham, the other ones to leave Cardiff licking their wounds.

    It goes without saying that Bulut cannot be held responsible for more than about forty per cent of these games, but I think the club and those covering the club in the media should be aware that, as others have remarked, watching City feels like a chore these days for many of their supporters.

  18. #18

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Am I the only one who doesn't really care?
    It will be what it will be.... not much discussion there though.

  19. #19

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't really care?
    It will be what it will be.... not much discussion there though.
    Pretty much as i see it, same feeling as i had with Lamouchi last year.

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    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't really care?
    It will be what it will be.... not much discussion there though.
    Yeah kind of how I feel tbh, if he stays he stays, if he goes he goes.

    I don’t think he’s as good as some people make out or as bad as others do.

  21. #21

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    I'd like to see him get the players HE wants through the door next season and then judge him.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    I'd like to see him get the players HE wants through the door next season and then judge him.
    Another excuse that is becoming common. Hes been allowed to bring in plenty of players he wanted and dont tell me he wouldnt want the likes of Phillips and Grant on loan.

    The new progressive managers at both QPR and Sheffield Wednesday havent done bad with squads theyve had to work with. Wednesday especially. They were relegation certainties and Rohl has got them getting results and playing better football with largely a league one squad. Thats what good coaches do, they make players better. Look at the tune hes got out of Ugbo compared to Bulut.

    You could say any manager in the division would have done better had he been allowed to bring in better quality players. Bring in a 20 goal a season striker.etc.

    Getting boring now the excuses being made for this charlatan.

  23. #23

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    Another excuse that is becoming common. Hes been allowed to bring in plenty of players he wanted and dont tell me he wouldnt want the likes of Phillips and Grant on loan.

    The new progressive managers at both QPR and Sheffield Wednesday havent done bad with squads theyve had to work with. Wednesday especially. They were relegation certainties and Rohl has got them getting results and playing better football with largely a league one squad. Thats what good coaches do, they make players better. Look at the tune hes got out of Ugbo compared to Bulut.

    You could say any manager in the division would have done better had he been allowed to bring in better quality players. Bring in a 20 goal a season striker.etc.

    Getting boring now the excuses being made for this charlatan.


    You should post more opinions on football rather than abusing people all the time

  24. #24

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    Another excuse that is becoming common. Hes been allowed to bring in plenty of players he wanted and dont tell me he wouldnt want the likes of Phillips and Grant on loan.

    The new progressive managers at both QPR and Sheffield Wednesday havent done bad with squads theyve had to work with. Wednesday especially. They were relegation certainties and Rohl has got them getting results and playing better football with largely a league one squad. Thats what good coaches do, they make players better. Look at the tune hes got out of Ugbo compared to Bulut.

    You could say any manager in the division would have done better had he been allowed to bring in better quality players. Bring in a 20 goal a season striker.etc.

    Getting boring now the excuses being made for this charlatan.

    Bit harsh, say how you really feel

  25. #25

    Re: Would you want Bulut to stay of go

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    Another excuse that is becoming common. Hes been allowed to bring in plenty of players he wanted and dont tell me he wouldnt want the likes of Phillips and Grant on loan.

    The new progressive managers at both QPR and Sheffield Wednesday havent done bad with squads theyve had to work with. Wednesday especially. They were relegation certainties and Rohl has got them getting results and playing better football with largely a league one squad. Thats what good coaches do, they make players better. Look at the tune hes got out of Ugbo compared to Bulut.

    You could say any manager in the division would have done better had he been allowed to bring in better quality players. Bring in a 20 goal a season striker.etc.

    Getting boring now the excuses being made for this charlatan.
    But that proves the logic that Bulut has done exactly what you praise Sheff Weds of doing, Shirley. We were in a relegation dog fights for 2 season which suggests we had players just slightly above league 1. Now we are mid table championship, never been in any real danger of sinking to the depth of the previous 2 seasons, an amazing turn around i'm sure you'd agree?

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