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    Russia, Russia, Russia

    Trump, Russia, Possible Collusion?

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    can anyone sum up what's said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    can anyone sum up what's said?
    The USA and Russia are re-establishing diplomatic relations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The USA and Russia are re-establishing diplomatic relations.
    so basically Russia is getting everything it wants without making any concessions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    so basically Russia is getting everything it wants without making any concessions?
    Nothing has happened yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Nothing has happened yet.
    the Russians seem to think it's worth celebrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    so basically Russia is getting everything it wants without making any concessions?
    Yeah what a joke, no nato or peace keeping troops in Ukraine and we will keep the land we stole and slaughtered people on….yeah sounds a great deal. where dies that lavrov dude come from? Another one that needs to feel pain.

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    Yeah what a joke, no nato or peace keeping troops in Ukraine and we will keep the land we stole and slaughtered people on….yeah sounds a great deal. where dies that lavrov dude come from? Another one that needs to feel pain.
    Trump has now stated Ukraine started the war.

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    That Sergey Lavrov is one evil looking mf!

    You clearly cannot trust the Russians and Trumps actions are of concern.

    Europe needs to toughen up and work together and not give in to bullies.

    What do normal, sane, Americans think of all this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Nothing has happened yet.
    Exactly. What the hell are people going on about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Trump, Russia, Possible Collusion?
    Well I never, new info this…..

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    Re: Russia, Russia, Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Trump, Russia, Possible Collusion?
    What, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    do any of the trump fans on here suddenly agree with that?
    Trump supporters believe EVERYTHING he says. He is the Sun King!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Trump: "I'll take Gaza, you have Ukraine and if you take Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and fancy Finland, I'm having Canada and Greenland. Let's make a deal?

    Putin: Well done my darling Trump.

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    "I'm very disappointed. I hear that they're upset about not having a seat. Well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    "I'm very disappointed. I hear that they're upset about not having a seat. Well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that."
    The conflict is very complicated and compromise and getting on with things is fair enough

    But trump and the Americans are behaving like idiots on the world stage

    Europe are pathetic and weak however

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    Trumps done it now….just outed Zelenskyy as a dictator! Jeepers

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    Trumps done it now….just outed Zelenskyy as a dictator! Jeepers
    Because he won't hold an election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Because he won't hold an election?
    that's been a talking point that the Kremlin are trying to push for a while.
    Presumably they're hoping they have an election and perhaps they can influence the outcome as they have tried many other times in other European elections.

    I don't see how Ukraine can post hold an election at the moment though - More than 20% of their population are living under Russian occupation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    that's been a talking point that the Kremlin are trying to push for a while.
    Presumably they're hoping they have an election and perhaps they can influence the outcome as they have tried many other times in other European elections.

    I don't see how Ukraine can post hold an election at the moment though - More than 20% of their population are living under Russian occupation
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If that Wiki page shows anything, it is that Zelenskyy definitely does not fit the profile or definition of a dictator.

    Trump on the other hand (and his mates Putin and Netanyahu)..... tick most of the boxes for concentration of power.

    The offsets that are usually put forward to counter that analysis are an independent and effective judiciary and press (including citizen journalists free to work). I suppose that still gets Trump off that hook, if not Putin and Netanyahu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Because he won't hold an election?
    Yeah…most countries at war struggle to hold elections, like Churchill said here….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Because he won't hold an election?
    No because he's a ****ing absolute nutcase

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