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Thread: FT: LIECHTENSTEIN 0 - 1 WALES. Match thread

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    FT: LIECHTENSTEIN 0 - 1 WALES. Match thread

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    Date: Saturday, 15 November Kick-off: 5pm (UK)

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    Injury News


    Ben Davies and Kieffer Moore will miss Wales' final World Cup qualifying group games against Liechtenstein and North Macedonia due to injury.

    Swansea City defender Ben Cabango has also withdrawn.

    Tottenham Hotspur defender Davies, 32, has not played since damaging his hamstring during October's defeat by Belgium.

    He was included in Wales' squad for the trip to Liechtenstein on Saturday, 15 November, and the home match against North Macedonia the following Tuesday.

    Wrexham striker Moore, 33, was also named in the squad but sustained an injury during his club's Championship win over Charlton Athletic last Saturday.

    He has been replaced by uncapped Cardiff City forward Isaak Davies, while Queens Park Rangers left-back Rhys Norrington-Davies comes in for Spurs defender Davies.

    Davies' withdrawal also means Wales will need to find a new captain as he has been leading the team in the continued absence of regular captain Aaron Ramsey through injury.

    Swansea skipper Cabango played the full 90 minutes in Saturday's 4-1 defeat by Ipswich Town but the Football Associaition of Wales (FAW) say the 25-year-old also has an injury.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Captain Ampadu? His form hasn't been all that good since the last international break.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    From being a stroll in the park...easy three points...the fact that if we win by six goals, (which will make Tuesday's game a lot more comfortable) will add a bit of zip to the game.
    An early goal, followed by two more before half time, should set us up for a classic second half.
    Wales seldom seem to do things the easy way...so we'll probably get five up with ten mins left, and then it'll be a nail biting last ten.
    Either that, or Bellamy will just take the three points, and bring on a load of subs, protecting his "star' players for the big game...leaving us in a must win situation against draw specialists NM.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    From being a stroll in the park...easy three points...the fact that if we win by six goals, (which will make Tuesday's game a lot more comfortable) will add a bit of zip to the game.
    An early goal, followed by two more before half time, should set us up for a classic second half.
    Wales seldom seem to do things the easy way...so we'll probably get five up with ten mins left, and then it'll be a nail biting last ten.
    Either that, or Bellamy will just take the three points, and bring on a load of subs, protecting his "star' players for the big game...leaving us in a must win situation against draw specialists NM.
    It's a tricky one.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    We might be a better team with Johnson or Brooks playing in the middle up front.

    Play with the ball on the deck

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    We might be a better team with Johnson or Brooks playing in the middle up front.

    Play with the ball on the deck
    I'd stick with Mark Harris, but I would instruct him to miss the target on purpose. No doubt every shot would then end up in the back of the net!

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    We might be a better team with Johnson or Brooks playing in the middle up front.

    Play with the ball on the deck
    Was thinking the same...who knows, Johnson may decide to turn up..

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    From being a stroll in the park...easy three points...the fact that if we win by six goals, (which will make Tuesday's game a lot more comfortable) will add a bit of zip to the game.
    An early goal, followed by two more before half time, should set us up for a classic second half.
    Wales seldom seem to do things the easy way...so we'll probably get five up with ten mins left, and then it'll be a nail biting last ten.
    Either that, or Bellamy will just take the three points, and bring on a load of subs, protecting his "star' players for the big game...leaving us in a must win situation against draw specialists NM.
    I just don't see this team scoring like that, it's hard to find exact numbers but it looks like we have scored 6 or more barely more than a handful of times in our history with at least half coming in the 19th century.

    I can see a dominant performance but a 2/3 nil.

    Ultimately just make sure we win the game, there seems to have been a few instances over the last decade or so where we have scraped late wins in these sort of fixtures.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Darlow

    Kpakio Rodon Lawlor Williams

    Ampadu Sheehan

    Thomas Colwill Brooks

    Johnson

    Feels like an ideal game for Colwill with Wilson out

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Darlow

    Kpakio Rodon Lawlor Williams

    Ampadu Sheehan

    Thomas Colwill Brooks

    Johnson

    Feels like an ideal game for Colwill with Wilson out
    you know he'll play cullen though

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Darlow

    Kpakio Rodon Lawlor Williams

    Ampadu Sheehan

    Thomas Colwill Brooks

    Johnson

    Feels like an ideal game for Colwill with Wilson out
    Is Jordan James injured?

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Is Jordan James injured?
    I'm assuming he's keeping him available for the North Macedonia match? Isn't Jordan James a booking away from a suspension?

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    I'm assuming he's keeping him available for the North Macedonia match? Isn't Jordan James a booking away from a suspension?
    He's not the only one.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He's not the only one.
    As I get older my knowledge on who is at risk in getting suspended due to yellow cards lessens.

    It'll be interesting to see who Bellamy may try to 'protect' given that Cymru may need to play four matches to qualify.

    Do suspensions carry over to the play offs?

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    From a quick websearch I think they do carry over into the playoffs but not the finals. It looks like Ben Davies, Rodon, Ampadu, Mepham and Jordan James are a yellow away from suspension. Big defensive impact is possible....

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Am I right in believing the final two group games will almost certainly only determine whether Wales finish second or third in the table and we'll be in the play-offs either way?

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Am I right in believing the final two group games will almost certainly only determine whether Wales finish second or third in the table and we'll be in the play-offs either way?
    Yes.

    The 'play off' semi finals.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Am I right in believing the final two group games will almost certainly only determine whether Wales finish second or third in the table and we'll be in the play-offs either way?
    yes, but they can have quite a big difference on how difficult our playoff path can be

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    yes, but they can have quite a big difference on how difficult our playoff path can be
    If finishing second, don't they get guaranteed a home game?

    This is where I lose the will...

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    As I get older my knowledge on who is at risk in getting suspended due to yellow cards lessens.

    It'll be interesting to see who Bellamy may try to 'protect' given that Cymru may need to play four matches to qualify.

    Do suspensions carry over to the play offs?
    Yes they do

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He's not the only one.
    He strikes me as most likely to pick up a booking

    I'd protect Ampadu too and go with Joel Colwill but I reckon he'll be captain

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    If finishing second, don't they get guaranteed a home game?

    This is where I lose the will...
    Yes

    Finish 2nd we're in pot 1 or 2 and play someone like Northern Ireland or even Moldova in Cardiff

    Finish 3rd and we're in pot 4 and will play away to a pot 1 side

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Yes

    Finish 2nd we're in pot 1 or 2 and play someone like Northern Ireland or even Moldova in Cardiff

    Finish 3rd and we're in pot 4 and will play away to a pot 1 side
    If we win both games and Poland lose to the Netherlands we are likely to be in pot 1, meaning not only will we get a home semi final against a pot 4 team, but we would avoid the likes of Italy in the playoff final.

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    If we win both games and Poland lose to the Netherlands we are likely to be in pot 1, meaning not only will we get a home semi final against a pot 4 team, but we would avoid the likes of Italy in the playoff final.
    Yes, this would make a massive difference, also then avoid the likes of Sweden and Serbia too I think. There is no way we put 6 on Liechtenstein , it would be wonderful if we did and make things a damn sight easier against North Macedonia but it’s just not what Wales historically do. Will be very tricky to break down North Macedonia in the 2nd game, I believe they are also guaranteed a play off spot if they finish 3rd but have just as much incentive to avoid the 3rd place finish as we do

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    Re: LIECHTENSTEIN v WALES. Match thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    If we win both games and Poland lose to the Netherlands we are likely to be in pot 1, meaning not only will we get a home semi final against a pot 4 team, but we would avoid the likes of Italy in the playoff final.
    This scenario is doable, but it won't be easy.

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