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Not that I agree with it for pubs, but why would they need to employ door staff? Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier to getbrhe barstaff to check for it before serving people? Like asking those that look underage for ID...
I don't know who you are or who you're meant to be blah blah and I don't think it matters tbh, but one thing I noticed is your sign up date and the fact the fella I'm question hasn't been around for quite some time, he hasn't posted under that name for some time..you joined 3 months ago..makes sense that you wouldn't know who he was as a new poster..
I'd say the whole experience would be different in so many ways , last time I went beer costs sat between 6 to 8 dollars therefore reducing the walk in and stay to get drunk mentality and behaviours so they are more controllable , where as staff in UK pubs face a far more tricky discussion /behaviour with its drunken punters .
I've seen bars late at night 3 or 4 deep and anger from punters just waiting on normal service .
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Problem then is that people are already in the pub and standing at the bar.
Basically the situation for the last few weeks is this;
Scotland - you need a covid jab to get in nightclubs etc
Wales - you need a covid jab or negative test to get in nightclubs etc
England -it's voluntary (I think)
Has there been any notable difference in rates across the three countries?
Clearly you didn’t get it did you ….. He thinks I’m another poster ….. FGS
Oh come off it. There are so many other factors influencing the actual and measured infection rate than just pub/bar entrance requirements to make the simplistic inference you are dying to draw laughable. there's a pattern here - you seem to want to simplify very complex issues to the point of absurdity.
I'll remind you, I only asked if there was evidence of different rates in Scotland, Wales and England in recent weeks. Chill out.
But, you are right. There are a huge number of factors influencing it, and that's my point. It's largely irrelevant, and yet we create new social divisions, discriminate against people and cross a threshold we haven't done before, for no discernible benefit.
As I said, the risk is the policy backfires; if one member of the group can't go to the pub then you end up in a house party where there are no restrictions whatsoever.
I just don't agree with it on principle, and if there is seemingly no clear health benefit either, then it's unlikely to convince me tbh.
I should add, my issue is more with the Scottish approach of requiring a vaccine as opposed to the Welsh one of a vaccine or negative test..but, there's still strong arguments it's discriminatory.
I can just see the costs and benefits and on balance don't support it. Not everything has to be done to fight the virus and nothing else. If that were the case then pubs wouldn't be open at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rapped-say-mps
**** let's hope Wales take the welsh approach although I suppose Wales is more likely to take the Sottish approach
We live in very strange times, when it appears that governments are discovering they can impose virtually anything upon their citizens without the slightest protest. New Zealand spent a year effectively closed, they then get a few cases and hey presto decide that they can't stop covid and open up, no-one complains. States in Australia lockdown completely because of 1 single case in each - you couldn't even go to the beach ! Yet no complaints, no objections. India is imposing lockdowns in Delhi because of pollution. Do you think it unreasonable to expect a UK/Wales government to impose more lockdowns if there's a 'flu epidemic - to protect the NHS of course.
The Welsh covid pass is utter rubbish. Can't understand why anyone with a brain would support it in its current format.
It relies on asking people who haven't been vaccinated to take a covid test and then properly report the results. It's an absolute joke. If they don't care enough to get vaccinated what makes anyone think they will bother to do the test and report the results properly. All they'll do is log on and pretend they have done it.
Typical rubbish from a government who want to be seen to be doing something, without actually doing anything