Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

[the other bob wilson]

For some reason, I find this story brings home what an absolute disgrace the whole thing was more than any other I've read.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62594529

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Absolutely disgraceful affair, makes me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan to be honest.

[mrbluejay]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Absolutely disgraceful affair, makes me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan to be honest.

Why, we didn’t organise this flight. David Henderson, Willie McKay & David Ibbotson are to blame for this. If you know that a vehicle you are going to travel in is not roadworthy, would you still go ahead?

[splott parker]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Absolutely disgraceful affair, makes me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan to be honest.

Wasn’t the flight that we organised refused?

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Absolutely disgraceful affair, makes me embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan to be honest.

Apart from the withholding of payment probably advised by their lawyers, what have Cardiff city actually done wrong?

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Apart from the withholding of payment probably advised by their lawyers, what have Cardiff city actually done wrong?

Used a discredited, dodgy agent, cocked up the player's registration and stories like this

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/emiliano-sala-flight-details-revealed-14019857

have to raise the possibility that they were aware of the sort of planes McKay was capable of hiring for cross channel journeys.

[The Bloop]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Apart from the withholding of payment probably advised by their lawyers, what have Cardiff city actually done wrong?

I don't think there's too much wrong with Cardiff seeking legal clarification on the status of the transfer fee either, in what was a pretty unique occurrence. Being portrayed in the press as us refusing to pay, or withholding payment, made us look like the bad guys.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Used a discredited, dodgy agent, cocked up the player's registration and stories like this

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/emiliano-sala-flight-details-revealed-14019857

have to raise the possibility that they were aware of the sort of planes McKay was capable of hiring for cross channel journeys.

Maybe I’m being thick but how is Sala’s choice of agent Cardiff City’s fault

[Trigger]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

I don't think there's too much wrong with Cardiff seeking legal clarification on the status of the transfer fee either, in what was a pretty unique occurrence. Being portrayed in the press as us refusing to pay, or withholding payment, made us look like the bad guys.

Well we have pretty much refused to pay haven't we?

[Ninja]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Maybe I’m being thick but how is Sala’s choice of agent Cardiff City’s fault

I get the impression that McKay was more employed by Nantes than Sala personally, although that's something we'll probably never know for sure.

The whole thing is truly sickening.
The majority of the blame has to lie with Henderson, the man running unlicensed flights with a plane he knew to be dodgy, and a pilot that even the owner had asked him never to use.

He's possibly already out of prison, despite effectively sending this young lad to his grave.

McKay should definitely have shouldered some of the blame too, he knew damn well what kind of cowboy operation he was using.

What's even more frightening is that such flights are seemingly being allowed on a much greater and more regular basis.
The aviation industry itself clearly has a lot to answer for in that respect too. Some of these flights should never be allowed to begin with by the sounds of it.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Maybe I’m being thick but how is Sala’s choice of agent Cardiff City’s fault

McKay was not Sala's agent or at least he wasn't until we became interested in him. That Daily Mirror story tells of how Warnock and Blackwell went over to France to watch a couple of Marseille players in a game with Nantes and ended up being more impressed by Sala - McKay and his son travelled with them.

[The Bloop]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

Well we have pretty much refused to pay haven't we?

Until the legal aspect had been decided, yes.

[Mr Soul '68]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

For some reason, I find this story brings home what an absolute disgrace the whole thing was more than any other I've read.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62594529

I feel exactly the same Bob. I'm say here feeling quite angry and upset having read this

[Nobody's Rep]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

McKay was not Sala's agent or at least he wasn't until we became interested in him. That Daily Mirror story tells of how Warnock and Blackwell went over to France to watch a couple of Marseille players in a game with Nantes and ended up being more impressed by Sala - McKay and his son travelled with them.

I'd love to know the full extent of Warnock relationship with mckay including how did his two sons get contracts with us as footballers? I don't think I have ever seen someone explain the history to that particular deal

We've made some weird deals before but that one is way off the charts for me

[mrbluejay]

Re: Sala pilot - crash plane was "dodgy".

McKay was not Sala's agent or at least he wasn't until we became interested in him. That Daily Mirror story tells of how Warnock and Blackwell went over to France to watch a couple of Marseille players in a game with Nantes and ended up being more impressed by Sala - McKay and his son travelled with them.

Mark McKay was given the mandate to sell Sala by Nantes.