Medieval pantomime a right embarrassment on the world stage

[splott parker]

Tourism revenue wouldnt stop just because we havent got a stupid thing such as a feckin King in this day and age.

May even increase.

You’d have thought so, tours of Buckingham Palace alone would bring in a right few bob.

[Heathblue]

You’d have thought so, tours of Buckingham Palace alone would bring in a right few bob.

I think so, I was having this discussion yesterday in work with two full on royalists, there would always be those who would come to see the sights irrespective if we have the crown or not, I'd just ban the French

[dml1954]

After Brexit this pantomime today makes Britain look very old fashioned, frugal, definitely not inclusive and frankly an embarrassment. The country really is a little island going backwards with delusions of grandeur and importance in the World.

Whilst a very large number of people are struggling to go about their daily lives and feed their families we see this pompous, arrogant decadence which is completely insensitive and unnecessary.

Nobody in power seems to be focussing on the key issues in society and the pain, worry and upset so many are enduring.

I'll keep it polite and respectful but something needs to change pretty quickly and GB needs to be more representative of everyone and the playing field levelled. It's 2023 and not 1623!

Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ? Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.

[JamesWales]

"A clear benefit" of your choosing? If a republic or monarchy is irrelevant to economic stability then you can't use it as a criticism. We spend a lot of public money on events like today. To many of us they're pompous, patronising, condescending, infantilising, have a fantastic lack of self-awareness and maintain a baffling hierarchy. The "king" is not accountable and we can't get rid of him.

Museums, galleries, old buildings etc are seen as a benefit. So if you're going to eschew the economic question, then what cultural benefit does royalty have for the entire country (and not just your own personal taste)?

I dont criticise republics. I criticise people moaning, slagging people off, manufacturing false consequences of the monarchy and talking about things like this (often from a position of privilege themselves) that have no consequence on people's lives.

And don't give me this 'let the people' decide stuff either, cos there's a big crossover between people who whinge about the monarchy and whinge about Brexit, which the people voted for (esp poorer people).

In fact, if there is anything that links it all is whingeing. Show me a positive vision, and I'll listen. Until then, there is no reason to change, and some reasons to keep the status quo, given they have no legislative power but do provide some stability as well as serving the country abroad etc.

But I don't care what people think, that's up to them..live and let live as I said the other day to the first ranting thread on CCMB aboti this.

[Doucas]

What's the estimated figure of how much that family cost us compared to how much tourism revenue they generate ? - as long as they break even or earn the UK some money - I dont mind that much. What gets my goat are people Duke and Duchess or x and their self entitled elitist attitude - they need to be given the 'French' treatment

It's an utter myth. Chester Zoo has more visitors than any of the Royal Family properties. In addition France gets far more visitors than us without one. Why do plebs constantly fall for whatever the status quo media tells them.

[splott parker]

Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ? Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.

John Cleese, Ronnie Barker & Ronnie Corbett springs to mind reading this post. ‘I Know My Place’.

[JamesWales]

It's an utter myth. Chester Zoo has more visitors than any of the Royal Family properties. In addition France gets far more visitors than us without one. Why do plebs constantly fall for whatever the status quo media tells them.

Probably because snobby people like you call them plebs

[NYCBlue]

I dont criticise republics. I criticise people moaning, slagging people off, manufacturing false consequences of the monarchy and talking about things like this (often from a position of privilege themselves) that have no consequence on people's lives.

And don't give me this 'let the people' decide stuff either, cos there's a big crossover between people who whinge about the monarchy and whinge about Brexit, which the people voted for (esp poorer people).

In fact, if there is anything that links it all is whingeing. Show me a positive vision, and I'll listen. Until then, there is no reason to change, and some reasons to keep the status quo, given they have no legislative power but do provide some stability as well as serving the country abroad etc.

But I don't care what people think, that's up to them..live and let live as I said the other day to the first ranting thread on CCMB aboti this.

People voted for Brexit because they were lied to by the government. And because they were stirred up jingoistic nonsense about how "great" Britain is and the demonization of Europe, the third largest economy on the planet.

[Doucas]

Probably because snobby people like you call them plebs

I've called myself a pleb on here plenty of times. I mean it more as the average person.

[the other bob wilson]

Mike, any luck with that forelock tugging emoji?

[Hilts]

A lot of angry Royal loons on here this afternoon.

Didnt enjoy the freak show?

[Hilts]

Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ? Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant not up there with the Rotherham result the other day but still great stuff.

Has to be a wind up account.

[Dorcus]

Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ? Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.

Working class Tories: pity help them

[Dorcus]

What's the estimated figure of how much that family cost us compared to how much tourism revenue they generate ? - as long as they break even or earn the UK some money - I dont mind that much. What gets my goat are people Duke and Duchess or x and their self entitled elitist attitude - they need to be given the 'French' treatment

France get more tourists than us and they ain't got a monarchy. If all the countries in all the world with present day monarchies became republics immediately do you think tourism would die a death? No, me neither.

[Dorcus]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant not up there with the Rotherham result the other day but still great stuff.

Has to be a wind up account.

He's in a world of his own. I doubt he was the most popular kid in school.

[Rjk]

What's the estimated figure of how much that family cost us compared to how much tourism revenue they generate ? - as long as they break even or earn the UK some money - I dont mind that much. What gets my goat are people Duke and Duchess or x and their self entitled elitist attitude - they need to be given the 'French' treatment

they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus

[Trigger]

It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.

Can we do away with Welsh labour too?

[Hilts]

It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.

Can we do away with Welsh labour too?

1st thing get the Tories out.

Without that cant think about Plaid in my area.

[Doucas]

It's not a big deal in the scheme of things. The M4 relief road cost more and we have some papers to show for it.

Can we do away with Welsh labour too?

Yes those things are exactly the same. You must be absolutely fuming at the £1.5 trillion debt the tories have added to the debt then.

It's £100 million a year basically on top of all the land they've stolen from the public.

This doesn't take into account other costs like policing etc either.

[TWGL1]

Yes those things are exactly the same. You must be absolutely fuming at the £1.5 trillion debt the tories have added to the debt then.

It's £100 million a year basically on top of all the land they've stolen from the public.

This doesn't take into account other costs like policing etc either.

I wouldn’t worry too much about debt , when you realise how it works

[JamesWales]

they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus

I think the fact that the UK has this living history that stretches back centuries and is still alive today does help tourism and drive general interest in the country, which I am always surprised at when I go abroad.

There are valid arguments on both sides but I don't see how becoming a republic would help in raising awareness of the country or in things like tourism

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

Reads like a page from the Socialist Workers Party manifesto. You just don't get it do you ? Some of the most fervent supporters of the Royal Family and all the history they bring to this country are the ordinary working class people. In difficult times especially the monarchy's presence and all the history the UK has brings comfort and solidity to people who might be struggling and gives them pride in their country. Go and live somewhere like Albania if you don't like it here.

Your message has an odd set of points and some even odder conclusions. I spent most of my working life travelling globally for a large US multinational. Contrary to belief of many the UK has lost position in the world ranks from a business, economic, technical standpoint amongst many. My post wasn't political so don't know where you get that from?

[splott parker]

I think the fact that the UK has this living history that stretches back centuries and is still alive today does help tourism and drive general interest in the country, which I am always surprised at when I go abroad.

There are valid arguments on both sides but I don't see how becoming a republic would help in raising awareness of the country or in things like tourism

Public beheadings (or guillotining) would maybe pack the punters in

[TWGL1]

they don't anywhere near break even, the tourism arguments are completely bogus

I take it you’re taking Monday off work though

[TWGL1]

1st thing get the Tories out.

Without that cant think about Plaid in my area.

Plaid