No Campaign wins Aborigine Rights Vote In Australia

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Backed by the Conservative Right

That's a surprise

A man of Italian origin who voted in favour of greater aborigine rights and representation said in his opinion Australia was a country with many bigots and the vote didn't surprise him at all

The Chant Of Jimmy Blacksmith is a great film with dire warnings if you can find it online

[Dave Blue]

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They’ve spent decades mistreating them. They’re not going to admit their mistakes and change their mindset now.

[+ the native hipster]

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people voting to decide an outcome , that's why we need to be fascist

[the other bob wilson]

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people voting to decide an outcome , that's why we need to be fascist

Using the Royal we there are you?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Using the Royal we there are you?

Come on, the OP was ludicrous. It's actually comical how he can squeeze a party political point from practically everything.

[Dorcus]

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Come on, the OP was ludicrous. It's actually comical how he can squeeze a party political point from practically everything.

It's actually more ludicrous and concerning that Australia made a referendum out of this. Constitutional rights should not be subject to a plebiscite; governments should ensure de facto equal rights to all it's citizens without popular input.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Come on, the OP was ludicrous. It's actually comical how he can squeeze a party political point from practically everything.

If you don't think that Australia is inherently a racist country with a huge right wing vote then go and have a bite to eat

This was a chance yet again for it to move forward

It's all sunshine and happy times on the surface though

[JamesWales]

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It's actually more ludicrous and concerning that Australia made a referendum out of this. Constitutional rights should not be subject to a plebiscite; governments should ensure de facto equal rights to all it's citizens without popular input.

Equal rights do exist for all don't they?

I think that's the point. This would have created something different and proved to be pretty divisive.

Recordings of hate crimes increased during the campaign from what I've read.

Identity politics like this nearly always creates more divisions than it solves.

That is not to say there are gaping inequalities in Australia, as there are. But my mates who live there didn't see how this solved anything and I'm inclined to agree.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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If you don't think that Australia is inherently a racist country with a huge right wing vote then go and have a bite to eat

This was a chance yet again for it to move forward

It's all sunshine and happy times on the surface though

15 years, approaching 40,000 posts, and you've never thought voice your concerns before ?

[jon1959]

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Equal rights do exist for all don't they?

I think that's the point. This would have created something different and proved to be pretty divisive.

Recordings of hate crimes increased during the campaign from what I've read.

Identity politics like this nearly always creates more divisions than it solves.

That is not to say there are gaping inequalities in Australia, as there are. But my mates who live there didn't see how this solved anything and I'm inclined to agree.

Formally and legally equal rights for all - but in practice that isn't the experience for many.

https://theconversation.com/racism-is-still-an-everyday-experience-for-non-white-australians-where-is-the-plan-to-stop-this-179769

The legacy of institutional racism against indigenous people and the long period of the White Australia Policy will last for more generations.

The referendum campaign does appear to have been divisive - but that doesn't mean the proposal was wrong, and sometimes it helps (in the long term) for the divisions to be exposed. The idea of a consultative role for indigenous people in the constitution is a watered down version of what has worked well in New Zealand for a long time.

I was in Australia twice in recent years and was very struck by the way many Australians (especially the young) have adopted a respectful references to First Nation people and tribal groups. It is strongest in the tourism and heritage sectors - and although it sounds scripted it also sounds genuine. There are similar conventions in New Zealand and South Africa. Some progress.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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15 years, approaching 40,000 posts, and you've never thought voice your concerns before ?

Well I mentioned it within this post as you clearly don't think it is of concern or that in your view as a white person living over here , that it isn't

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Equal rights do exist for all don't they?

I think that's the point. This would have created something different and proved to be pretty divisive.

Recordings of hate crimes increased during the campaign from what I've read.

Identity politics like this nearly always creates more divisions than it solves.

That is not to say there are gaping inequalities in Australia, as there are. But my mates who live there didn't see how this solved anything and I'm inclined to agree.

Of course you would

I mean it's not as if you are aborigine is it ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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people voting to decide an outcome , that's why we need to be fascist

White , conservative people voting not to give the indigenous community more rights ?

Well that's a surprise 😲

[JamesWales]

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Of course you would

I mean it's not as if you are aborigine is it ?

I didn't realise you were.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I didn't realise you were.

I am not but I find it absolutely laughable that a white conservative voter from here can say he's got mates over in Australia who are certainly not going to be indigenous aborigine people and they think its divisive and so does he

Sit down and behave downtrodden people we know what's best for you !

Identity politics ff sake , get out of here