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Thread: EUROS FINAL. FT: ENGLAND 1 - 2 SPAIN

  1. #326

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    At least the ref is being consistent says Shearer - hes giving everything to England.

    Three of the best front four in the tournament taken off. Whats Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?

  2. #327

    Re: Spain v Italy

    I'd watch San Marino v Indonesia before Starmer v Sunak.

  3. #328

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    “At least the ref is being consistent” says Shearer - he’s giving everything to England.

    Three of the “best front four in the tournament” taken off. What’s Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?
    it's because he's black.

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    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    England have many excellent players.

    Southgate does not know how to create a team.

    Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.

  5. #330

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    England have many excellent players.

    Southgate does not know how to create a team.

    Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.
    Spot on.

    Maybe a few years of struggling to qualify might generate a bit more of an all in it together team spirit?

    Long may their sense of entitlement continue 😆

  6. #331

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    England have many excellent players.

    Southgate does not know how to create a team.

    Gareth - the best team is not necessarily the best 11 individuals.
    He puts the shackles on his players. He's too scared of dying on his sword by being a bit adventurous - similar to Bulut

  7. #332

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    He puts the shackles on his players. He's too scared of dying on his sword by being a bit adventurous - similar to Bulut
    Thats a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, its just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. Its beyond stupid and obviously doesnt work.

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    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    The England team performance is a reflection of Southgate's personality. He seldom moves from the dugout and always looks impassive, there's no 'fire in his belly'
    I hope Erol Bulut stops doing his Gareth Southgate impersonation next season.

    PS - they both 'hate to lose'!

    PPS - just seen all the other posts saying the same!

  9. #334

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    At least the ref is being consistent says Shearer - hes giving everything to England.

    Three of the best front four in the tournament taken off. Whats Cole Palmer done to upset Southgate?
    Someone like Cole Palmer is probably exactly what England need, he gets on the ball and pushes forward, he makes things happen, he's had an outstanding season. Not to say Eze or Bowen aren't talented but he should be coming on before that pair.

  10. #335

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
    Some players, Alaba from LB to CDM, sure Kimmich was a RB before he went into midfield (may be the other way around mind)
    so it can work, maybe Southgate saw the headlines in his imagination, he's a genius if it works and an idiot if it doesnt.

  11. #336

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Just saw the Southgate interview. Looks like that's the end of the TAA experiment.

  12. #337

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Great to be able to watch a football match now, after what came just before. More entertainment in the first 10 than in the whole of the other match.

  13. #338

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five View Post
    A fair comparison. This playing out from the back with endless, negative passes is mind-numbing.
    I'm in a bar right now crammed with football-crazy locals (most of whom support England), they're all playing with their phones.
    endless passes isn't something I recognise from Buluts Cardiff team

  14. #339

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Do you think Spain would notice if Wales swapped Neco Williams for Nico Williams ?

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    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thats a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, its just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. Its beyond stupid and obviously doesnt work.
    Heard on the radio today that hes planning on playing Shaw at some stage. A good left back, but hasnt played for months.
    As you say, crazy that a team with so many players to choose from, cant field another decent LB

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    Re: Spain v Italy

    Who's winning?

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    Re: Spain v Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Who's winning?
    Davey or Swinney according to the clapometer.

  18. #343

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I hope Erol Bulut stops doing his Gareth Southgate impersonation next season.

    PS - they both 'hate to lose'!

    PPS - just seen all the other posts saying the same!
    Both Scared to lose.

  19. #344

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    The Serbia game would have gone the same way for England if they'd have possessed that little bit of quality Denmark had. Southgate doesn't seem to have learnt from the opening game. The midfield play is shocking, it's slow, ponderous, without purpose. It's mainly on Southgate, but those players need to turn up and show some quality when needed. They look like they're playing like they think Southgate is a bit of a pleb tactically.

  20. #345

    Re: Spain v Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    I'd watch San Marino v Indonesia before Starmer v Sunak.
    That would actually be quite an interesting game. I'd go more for Israel v Slovakia in terms of boring international teams.

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    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    That’s a large factor, but as I said earlier in the thread, it’s just mind-numbing that a country with a huge pool of talented players like England are selecting people out of position in the early stages of a major tournament. A right-back at left-back and another right-back in midfield. It’s beyond stupid and obviously doesn’t work.
    Totally.

  22. #347

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Have you ever seen an England team as comfortable on the ball as Denmark were earlier, not to mention Spain !?

    England players are fine when they have a sprinkling of quality foreign players around them in their club sides but put them all together in the same international team and they seem utterly clueless. Compare their movement and ball control with almost every team in the tournament and ask yourself how on God's Earth are they considered one of the favourites.

  23. #348

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Have you ever seen an England team as comfortable on the ball as Denmark were earlier, not to mention Spain !?

    England players are fine when they have a sprinkling of quality foreign players around them in their club sides but put them all together in the same international team and they seem utterly clueless. Compare their movement and ball control with almost every team in the tournament and ask yourself how on God's Earth are they considered one of the favourites.
    According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue

  24. #349

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue
    That's fantastic!

  25. #350

    Re: EUROS thread. Thursday 20th June 2024.

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
    According to Southgate it's the lack of Kalvin Phillips which is causing the issue
    I do feel sorry for Southgate because he has such a very small pool of players to choose from.......

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