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    Farmers are revolting

    And I dont mean for all that messing around with animal shit.

    Big protest tomorrow apparently

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy4xv5dy5yo

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    And I dont mean for all that messing around with animal shit.

    Big protest tomorrow apparently

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy4xv5dy5yo
    It's called manure

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Good to see that 'man of the people' Farage has been vocal in his support of farmers in regard to this inheritance tax whilst conveniently forgetting the damage Brexit has played on the industry as a whole.

    He's offered to speak at the rally but the farmers organising are considering his generosity of him speaking for them.

    Good ole Nige. There for the downtrodden again and it's definitely not about him.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's called manure
    Please stop talking shite TBG.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Will Hutton did an interesting piece in The Observer yesterday. If his take is right (he has always been very careful with his numbers) there will be 500 rich farmers affected each year tops, and the tractor convoys organised by the NFU claiming small hill farmers will be driven under by inheritance tax changes are all bollux:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rural-britain

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    And I dont mean for all that messing around with animal shit.

    Big protest tomorrow apparently

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy4xv5dy5yo
    A lot that I've met certainly are.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Farmers unhappy that the subsidy money they receive from taxpayers is going to come with obligations not to destroy the environment. Also raging that they no longer get preferential tax treatment to the refs of the population. Revolting is the right word for them

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Didn't Mau get rid of the farmers or am I thinking of some other despot? Maybe Stalin?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Stalin purged the kulaks. Starved millions to death in the name of collectivism
    Last edited by Packerman; 18-11-24 at 15:49. Reason: Error

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Will Hutton did an interesting piece in The Observer yesterday. If his take is right (he has always been very careful with his numbers) there will be 500 rich farmers affected each year tops, and the tractor convoys organised by the NFU claiming small hill farmers will be driven under by inheritance tax changes are all bollux:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rural-britain
    Really? Most farms worth over a million ? If they pass them on to carry on farming there is no way they should be taxed on it, Christ we barely make anything here anymore and soon we might be importing milk ! We need farms

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Will Hutton did an interesting piece in The Observer yesterday. If his take is right (he has always been very careful with his numbers) there will be 500 rich farmers affected each year tops, and the tractor convoys organised by the NFU claiming small hill farmers will be driven under by inheritance tax changes are all bollux:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rural-britain
    First they came for the 500 rich farmers, and I did not speak out, because I was not a rich farmer.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    First they came for the 500 rich farmers, and I did not speak out, because I was not a rich farmer.
    Really?

    Your position is surely more Jeremy Clarkson than Pastor Niemoller.

    'Nooooooooooo!' would be more appropriate.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    I thought that flat capped celebrity farmers spokesman outside the Welsh Labour conference was a right entitled tosser

    Every time these farmers want something they expect the prime minister just to turn up and speak to them in the car park ?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    Farmers unhappy that the subsidy money they receive from taxpayers is going to come with obligations not to destroy the environment. Also raging that they no longer get preferential tax treatment to the refs of the population. Revolting is the right word for them
    40 percent IHT

    20 percent for farmers ?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Good to see that 'man of the people' Farage has been vocal in his support of farmers in regard to this inheritance tax whilst conveniently forgetting the damage Brexit has played on the industry as a whole.

    He's offered to speak at the rally but the farmers organising are considering his generosity of him speaking for them.

    Good ole Nige. There for the downtrodden again and it's definitely not about him.
    The majority of farmers voted brexit

    Return to sender

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The majority of farmers voted brexit

    Return to sender
    UK food exports are well up since Brexit. You just don't read about it

    https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.u...bly-resilient/

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Will Hutton did an interesting piece in The Observer yesterday. If his take is right (he has always been very careful with his numbers) there will be 500 rich farmers affected each year tops, and the tractor convoys organised by the NFU claiming small hill farmers will be driven under by inheritance tax changes are all bollux:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-rural-britain
    The difference of course is that the asset is fundamental to the job of farming. Owning land may be an asset to me, to sell or develop etc, but for farms it is a requirement of the job.

    It does seem another mistake from the government to me. An unnecessary fight and a risky one given the importance and fragility of the sector

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The majority of farmers voted brexit

    Return to sender
    The NFU favoured staying in the EU.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    UK food exports are well up since Brexit. You just don't read about it

    https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.u...bly-resilient/
    So Brexit has been an unqualified success for farming?

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    So Brexit has been an unqualified success for farming?
    Dunno. But food exports are well up which is unlikely to be bad. I think the changes to agriculture payments are positive.

    Farmers across the EU spent much of this year protesting too.

    I doubt it all makes that much difference in reality

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    The NFU favoured staying in the EU.
    Well the NFU seem sensible

    Farmers are generally very odd

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Really?

    Your position is surely more Jeremy Clarkson than Pastor Niemoller.

    'Nooooooooooo!' would be more appropriate.
    I thought it was quite a good joke

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Dunno. But food exports are well up which is unlikely to be bad. I think the changes to agriculture payments are positive.

    Farmers across the EU spent much of this year protesting too.

    I doubt it all makes that much difference in reality
    Jimbo, I'm a little disappointed in you using a small piece of information to come to a conclusion.

    Let's see what the farmers say?

    https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/...arm-subsidies/

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-refere...count-the-cost

    https://westcountryvoices.com/brexit-and-farming/

    Obviously we should take into account, farmers are notoriously moaning bastards who in the main see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and there’s a nice pond in it, they fill in the pond with concrete, they plough the family into the field, blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for their wife who’s also your brother.

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Jimbo, I'm a little disappointed in you using a small piece of information to come to a conclusion.

    Let's see what the farmers say?

    https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/...arm-subsidies/

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-refere...count-the-cost

    https://westcountryvoices.com/brexit-and-farming/

    Obviously we should take into account, farmers are notoriously moaning bastards who in the main see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and there’s a nice pond in it, they fill in the pond with concrete, they plough the family into the field, blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for their wife who’s also your brother.
    I've seen all the big eared boys on farms

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    Re: Farmers are revolting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Jimbo, I'm a little disappointed in you using a small piece of information to come to a conclusion.

    Let's see what the farmers say?

    https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/...arm-subsidies/

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-refere...count-the-cost

    https://westcountryvoices.com/brexit-and-farming/

    Obviously we should take into account, farmers are notoriously moaning bastards who in the main see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and there’s a nice pond in it, they fill in the pond with concrete, they plough the family into the field, blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for their wife who’s also your brother.
    The fact is that food exports are growing pretty well and we were told the opposite would happen.

    I'm sure there are a gr at diversity of opinions on it, but it's pretty clear that none of it drove them to protest unlike what's happening today, and also as has been happening all year across the EU. Indeed one can speculate that the farmers here would have been protesting had we not left?!

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