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Thread: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

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    Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    City up tempo and intensity, but old failings still dog them.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Oxford's equaliser came in the 79th minute. There were six minutes of added time.

    Did City force the Oxford keeper into a single save during those 17 minutes? If they did, I can't recall it.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Oxford's equaliser came in the 79th minute. There were six minutes of added time.

    Did City force the Oxford keeper into a single save during those 17 minutes? If they did, I can't recall it.
    Tanner had a long range shot easily saved. Not enough power and straight down the middle.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Oxford's equaliser came in the 79th minute. There were six minutes of added time.

    Did City force the Oxford keeper into a single save during those 17 minutes? If they did, I can't recall it.
    Did the Oxford keeper have a save to make in the first seventy nine minutes? As I said at half time, I could have played in goal for us and kept a clean sheet.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Tanner had a long range shot easily saved. Not enough power and straight down the middle.


    I thought that was a back pass.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Did the Oxford keeper have a save to make in the first seventy nine minutes? As I said at half time, I could have played in goal for us and kept a clean sheet.
    I asked the same question in the match thread - apart form Salech's goal, the Oxford keeper didn't have a genuine save to make as far as I can recall. We're said to have had three shots on target, but I presume the other two were limp, long-range efforts that the keeper could have thrown his cap on.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Did the Oxford keeper have a save to make in the first seventy nine minutes? As I said at half time, I could have played in goal for us and kept a clean sheet.
    Sorry to take this so literally as I know what your point is - but an out of shape and much older amateur, like any of us, would concede about 10 per half in a proper Championship game. You'd have a reach of maybe a yard either side of you, with no chance of getting anything low or high, so they'd be shooting from 40+ yards and they'd have a massive target for a guaranteed goal.

    Your defence would either play a high line to block long shots, leaving you open to one-on-ones with an almost 100% certainty of a goal. Or defending in deep, inviting those long shots. Either way, a bloodbath

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I asked the same question in the match thread - apart form Salech's goal, the Oxford keeper didn't have a genuine save to make as far as I can recall. We're said to have had three shots on target, but I presume the other two were limp, long-range efforts that the keeper could have thrown his cap on.
    One was that shot by Tanner mentioned earlier, not sure what the other was. He did come out and catch a fairly diffficult cross in the closing minutes, but it was the sort hed be expected to catch nine times out of ten.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Sorry to take this so literally as I know what your point is - but an out of shape and much older amateur, like any of us, would concede about 10 per half in a proper Championship game. You'd have a reach of maybe a yard either side of you, with no chance of getting anything low or high, so they'd be shooting from 40+ yards and they'd have a massive target for a guaranteed goal.

    Your defence would either play a high line to block long shots, leaving you open to one-on-ones with an almost 100% certainty of a goal. Or defending in deep, inviting those long shots. Either way, a bloodbath
    You’re right, but I was making the point that City came up with absolutely nothing for the goalkeeper to deal with in the first half and I’d add that it’s hardly been unique this season - I’d guess that the opposing goalkeeper has not had a shot to save in the first half of about a third of our home league matches.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Youre right, but I was making the point that City came up with absolutely nothing for the goalkeeper to deal with in the first half and Id add that its hardly been unique this season - Id guess that the opposing goalkeeper has not had a shot to save in the first half of about a third of our home league matches.
    Neither side had a shot on target 1st half and when Oxford equalised that made it 2-1 in shots on target .

    Apart from not shooting , the ability to look up and play a pass to a player in a good advanced position yesterday was woeful. Rinamota in the first half massively overhit a pass that would have played us in ( think that was Salech) and then second half Ashford ignored a great run by Robertson trying to beat his man ignoring the better placed robertson and then compounded the error by switching off and allowing oxford to retain possession.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Sorry to take this so literally as I know what your point is - but an out of shape and much older amateur, like any of us, would concede about 10 per half in a proper Championship game. You'd have a reach of maybe a yard either side of you, with no chance of getting anything low or high, so they'd be shooting from 40+ yards and they'd have a massive target for a guaranteed goal.

    Your defence would either play a high line to block long shots, leaving you open to one-on-ones with an almost 100% certainty of a goal. Or defending in deep, inviting those long shots. Either way, a bloodbath
    I disagree, I back Bob

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Good report as always Bob. What irritated the feck out of me yesterday was bringing Meite on, and then playing him on the wing, when we were desperate for a goal. He has shown us recently that he can score with his head, yet Ramsey/Gunter played him on the wing. WTF? We should have been aiming as many balls into the box as possible in the hope that that either him or Salech could get on the end of a cross (like Salech did for our goal!), and put the ball in the back of the net

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    It's been the basics all season.
    50/50s and 5 yard balls are completely beyond this squad, that " with a good manager " would be mid table.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    It's been the basics all season.
    50/50s and 5 yard balls are completely beyond this squad, that " with a good manager " would be mid table.
    Ive been thinking the unthinkable lately and asking if Bulut and Riza realised how full of ineptitude and lack of work this squad was, thus deciding to nick one late as the only means to prevent a thrashing every game??

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Chambers shook the bar against Luton with a tremendous shot. The keeper was an onlooker. They went up the other end and Goutas handed them the 3 points. The rest is history.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    One was that shot by Tanner mentioned earlier, not sure what the other was. He did come out and catch a fairly diffficult cross in the closing minutes, but it was the sort he’d be expected to catch nine times out of ten.
    Third was as a fairly tame header from Salech, think the cross was too deep maybe and he just didn't generate any power.

    Yep for all the possession and relatively little coming from Oxford that's it on target. Two he could have thrown his hat on and the goal. First half Willock should be scoring or at least drawing a good save.

    Even less for Horvath to do amazingly.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Good report as always Bob. What irritated the feck out of me yesterday was bringing Meite on, and then playing him on the wing, when we were desperate for a goal. He has shown us recently that he can score with his head, yet Ramsey/Gunter played him on the wing. WTF? We should have been aiming as many balls into the box as possible in the hope that that either him or Salech could get on the end of a cross (like Salech did for our goal!), and put the ball in the back of the net
    Totally agree with this, I had hoped this "tactic" would be consigned to the bin with the back of Riza, but apparently Ramsey thought that putting a big lump out on the wing would work as well, I'm honestly stumped. He was brought on before Tanner and Alves too, so it's not like he didn't have other options on the bench at that time. I guess at the time we were leading but even when we weren't, I just don't understand the logic of having Meite and Salech on the pitch and keeping the ball on the ground and passing it about as slowly as possible.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    Chambers shook the bar against Luton with a tremendous shot. The keeper was an onlooker. They went up the other end and Goutas handed them the 3 points. The rest is history.
    Yes, I forgot that one, so thats one for our league season, but that came from a player whose confidence was up after scoring with a strange looking bouncing bomb volley a few minutes earlier.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Third was as a fairly tame header from Salech, think the cross was too deep maybe and he just didn't generate any power.

    Yep for all the possession and relatively little coming from Oxford that's it on target. Two he could have thrown his hat on and the goal. First half Willock should be scoring or at least drawing a good save.

    Even less for Horvath to do amazingly.
    Yes I remember that header now, thanks.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    The reason why we don't see us hit the ball cleanly, with purpose and intent in league games, constantly, and why we can do it in FA cup Games, League Cup Games etc, is because there's little pressure in cup games, especially the early rounds, they're almost glorified friendlies, the competitiveness is miles below a league encounter. Same could be said for the majority of our play. This lot have had long enough, played enough, shown us enough, if anyone is waiting for the magic coach to turn up, then keep on waiting. The majority of these players are losers, they don't know how to win against the odds or adapt when the shit hits the fan. Weak and characterless. Same for the coaching staff as well.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    City up tempo and intensity, but old failings still dog them.

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    Blue in league 2 and all that….congrats vinnie almost there

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    We played some good stuff yesterday, all until we got near their goal, then it was an extra pass or two and lose possession, it was so frustrating.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    We played some good stuff yesterday, all until we got near their goal, then it was an extra pass or two and lose possession, it was so frustrating.
    No player will take on a defender and get a cross in.

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You’re right, but I was making the point that City came up with absolutely nothing for the goalkeeper to deal with in the first half and I’d add that it’s hardly been unique this season - I’d guess that the opposing goalkeeper has not had a shot to save in the first half of about a third of our home league matches.
    Don't talk yourself down

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    Re: Almost there, the relegation that Cardiff have been heading towards for years is, surely, just days away.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    No player will take on a defender and get a cross in.
    that's the type of players we will be recruiting for next season from the lower leagues abroad.

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