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With hindsight, yes. But then there'd be some criticism of the club (and players maybe) for lacking ambition by not testing them out at a higher level when the chance arose. To be fair, we've been slated endlessly for sending players out to non-league clubs for loans so it seems harsh to be critical now we've sent four out to League 1, even if they haven't worked out.Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
I've said before that lads like Harris, Bagan and Tanner have come back as first team squad members after poor loan spells so it's not the be all and end all. Maybe someone like Colwill has learnt more about himself and what he needs to work on from Exeter than from Cheltenham, who knows? It does feel like a chance wasted for some of those lads to demand a first team spot here next season though.
He was very impressed with him when he first arrived as he had an immediate impact and they were all very fed up with Ian Evatt and his style of football - but they have fallen away badly in the last 6 games so hes holding judgement until next season now
By the way I would also like to add my thanks to you for your reports - very informative, well written and amusing
Agree with this. Ideally all our loan players would start 40+ games and set the world alight, but it's not always about minutes.
I think, as with most things in life, a loan is only as useful as a player makes it. I remember Jack Grealish talking about a loan he had at Notts County and how it opened his eyes to the financial realities of making a living as a lower league footballer. He said it spurred on him to work harder and be a success at Villa so that he wouldn't end up at that level.
In someone like Colwill's case, he's had the best of both worlds this year. He's experienced the highs of playing, scoring goals, and being a fans favourite, but he's also had the lows of not being another manager's cup of tea, and struggling to make any impact in a different environment. All of that will be incredibly valuable for him as a learning experience.
You could almost be talking about Rubin Colwill there.
He's never spent time anywhere but here. More's the pity.
Thank you. There's an article here about Schumacher's time at Bolton so far for anyone who's interested.He was very impressed with him when he first arrived as he had an immediate impact and they were all very fed up with Ian Evatt and his style of football - but they have fallen away badly in the last 6 games so hes holding judgement until next season now
By the way I would also like to add my thanks to you for your reports - very informative, well written and amusing
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/th...ton-wanderers/
Kortrijk lost 2-0 tonight
Also, Inigo Calderon has been talking about Michael Reindorf before Bristol Rovers game with Reading tomorrow.
"I always say that he is fit and he is training. He is training good and is trying everything.
"Obviously, if he has not been on the bench it is because I consider that he was not in that 18 players, but not because he's not trying or not because he's not good. [It's] just because I have to try to pick the best ones and if he hasn't been picked, it's because I thought there were 18 better than him. Simple as that. Nothing against him, nothing personal, he has a great attitude and is a great lad."
What a weird loan spell that's been.
ah so it's not that he's not good, just there are 18 better players than him in a relegation threatened league one team who are in the middle of an injury crisis.
To be fair when he made his cameos in the Championship I was amazed a league 1 club then took him. Looked national league level if that.
Heartbreak for Ryotaro Tsunoda on Friday evening. Kortrijk's imminent relegation after their defeat to bottom of the table Beerschot may have cost him his chance to win the Loan d'Or this season, the prestigious trophy awarded to our best loaned out player. Malachi Fagan-Walcott is now the runaway favourite. It would be well deserved for Malachi but disappointing for a couple of reasons. Obviously it would be better if a current City player won it but not only that, I'm paying the engraver by the letter this year (I'd expected Eli King to win it). My own fault, I made the same mistake in 2014 back in the Loan Watch days when Kevin Theophile-Catherine won it and I had to put Joe from accounts on a 4 day week to cover the expense.
Kortrijk's defeat didn't seem to be Tsunoda's fault, he had the top rating of their players in a game that they dominated with 65% possession and over 500 passes (of which Tsunoda made 49). With the problems we had at centre half it makes you wonder if he'd have had a part to play here if he'd stayed.
Kieron Evans started for Newport in their defeat at Fleetwood yesterday. No squad place for Kion Etete as Bolton drew at Peterborough and no place, of course, for Michael Reindorf as Bristol Rovers lost a record 5th home game in a row and are all but relegated. Bonkers.
There were sub appearances elsewhere though. Ryan Wintle helped Millwall to a double over Swansea this season, he played in both games against them although I'm not sure how much influence he had in his three minute cameo yesterday. Joel Colwill came on for Exeter as they beat Huddersfield and Eli King got a run out for Stevenage as they got a late equaliser against Rotherham. A centre half came on with two minutes to go, went up front and scored. Some comments were suggesting that Stevenage's midfield has been good this season but the lack of firepower has let them down. Simple answer to that. Get Michael Reindorf in on a season long loan in August, what could go wrong?
Joel Colwill winning Cheltenham Young player of the year award
seems odd
I suppose it's odd in the sense that he only played the first half of the season so he may have been forgotten about a bit but he made more appearances for them than Cody Drameh did for us and we gave Drameh the Player of the Season and Young Player of the Season awards.
Our recent Player of the Year awards are a real indicator of the degree to which weve declined in the past five years.
I honestly would have had to pass this season if I was one of those who voted every year.
2-0 win for Tsunoda's Kortrijk yesterday, but they're all but down after today's result. They need to make up 3 points and a 7 goal difference deficit on the final day.
I'm not sure what the rules are to be honest, we got in a muddle with this last season. The Pro League wiki page has goal difference as only being from the play off games, which would be good for Kortrijk but it has them as already relegated as the classification is points then finishing position in the regular season. Surely it's academic as Cercle Brugge only need a point at Beerschot next week to make sure anyway but I'll try and find out.
Not much else to report. Michael Reindorf finally got some pitch time, coming on with twenty minutes to go at Blackpool. He nearly got an equaliser straight away but their keeper tipped his shot round the post. Rovers went on to lose 4-1, they made our end of season efforts look heroic.
Sub appearances for Ryan Wintle and Eli King yesterday, no pitch time for Kieron Evans and no squad place for Kion Etete. Exeter manager Gary Caldwell played Joel Colwill at centre forward, as you do, and they lost 3-0. There's been some weird stuff going on this season.
It may have been weird, but I have enjoyed reading about it.
I wonder what next season will bring.
I have no idea what to do with Ryan Wintle, every time I write him off, he has a world-class performance, then he turns to utter crap again. I don't really have much faith in him as a permanent CDM. Probably a sell, but there's a chance he could win me back like Rinomhota has this season.
Apparently King has been getting rave reviews out of Stevenage, so I'll be looking forward to seeing him in the first team next season.
Joel Colwill had a great stint at Cheltenham, but has been very cold as Exeter. It's good that he's had some experience in League One now, should be able to join our first team quite comfortably next season.
Glad Reindorf finally got some time, he's been a hyped youth prospect for us and any League One experience is good. I'd be happy for him to shadow Salech or Isaak Davies in L1.
Honestly, just get rid of Etete on a free at this point. It's absolutely not working.
No idea what's happening with Tsunoda, seems like he was brought in to help the Belgian boys on a technicality rule.
That's a good question. It's going to be an interesting close season. With EFL Trophy games to play and earlier FA Cup ties we're going to need a decent sized squad I'd have thought so maybe not too many of our youngsters going out. Bolton, Stevenage, Exeter and Bristol Rovers all seemed to be struggling with injuries through the season and I'm sure we'll be no different. Sending lads out is no guarantee of game time anyway, as this season has shown, so it'll be more senior players the new manager doesn't fancy but can't sell I'd have thought but we'll see.
Ah, they are already down:
https://www.proleague.be/nieuws/kv-k...ger-pro-league
Looks like regular season finishing position is the decider if teams finish level on points, and as Cercle Brugge finished above Kortrijk, Kortrijk can't overtake them.
Typical. Having hired an engraver who charges by the letter for when the player of the season was announced, it turns out there are two winners as Ryotaro Tsunoda and Malachi Fagan-Walcott get to share the Loan d'Or for the next 12 months.
It's worked out ok for me to be fair, I told the engraver that they're known professionally as Ryo and MFW and he was none the wiser. I'm just glad Michael Reindorf didn't win it. When he went to Bristol Rovers he'd stipulated that he'd want his full name on the trophy if he won, I didn't realise until later that his full name is Michael Douglas Kwabena Amponsah Reindorf Junior. I owe Inigo Calderon a drink for making sure he didn't win, I'll look out for him when I pass a job centre.
Joel Colwill won young player of the season and the former loan player award went to Josh Murphy for his impressive season at Portsmouth. No presentation night this time round, the logistics made it difficult, although I did get an offer. The Chuckle Brothers tribute act that we got double booked with back in 2016 sent me an e mail and said they'd sort a venue and organise everything if I'd let them do an hour long act and then present the trophies after. I politely declined. Tsunoda has been through a tough 16 months since he signed for us, I felt that might have pushed him over the edge.
He got 90 minutes in for Kortrijk yesterday as they drew 2-2 with STVV in their final relegation play off game. It's been a strong finish to the season, they've been the best side in the play off group, having picked up 11 points from their 6 games, but they left themselves too much to do after the regular season and are relegated. There's been a new manager bounce, and a new player bounce since Tsunoda arrived, but it just came too late.
A quick word about Malachi Fagan-Walcott. His York side finished second in the National League and have a play off game upcoming. He got 38 starts this season with six goals and four assists to his name.
Some eyebrows were raised when he chose to go to York having been offered other clubs, apparently including EFL sides, but it seems to have turned out well for him. He's had regular games and secured a permanent deal there, he's in a good position to push on. As a London boy, the temptation to move to a club nearer to home must've been there but he's happy to put his football first. He'd already taken two loan spells in Scotland and now, having weighed up his options at the start of this season, decided to set off for York. No doubt whistling the Paul Young classic, Wherever I Lay my Head That's my Hat as he went.
Unless Jake Dennis makes a reappearance for Oldham in their play off games, that's it for this season. Richard M wondered further up the thread what next season would bring and it's an interesting thought. Hard to believe it can be any more baffling than this one.
Weren't Dalman and Choo available when the Chuckle brothers cried off
Thanks for your efforts through the season, if there's any justice, Fagan-Walcott will be playing in the EFL come August.
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