The Green Party

[jon1959]

On the rise!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...he-green-surge

Zack Polanski becoming a brave and articulate media star. A rare sight!

Green support up to 15% (Reform 32%, Tories 17%, Labour 17%, Lib Dems 12%)

Green party membership up to 112,000 (Labour 309,000, Reform 260,000, Tories 123,000, Lib Dems 60,000).

Interesting.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

On the rise!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...he-green-surge

Zack Polanski becoming a brave and articulate media star. A rare sight!

Green support up to 15% (Reform 32%, Tories 17%, Labour 17%, Lib Dems 12%)

Green party membership up to 112,000 (Labour 309,000, Reform 260,000, Tories 123,000, Lib Dems 60,000).

Interesting.

So yourparty fit in where ?

Its frighteningly obvious that all this nonsense who is more virtuous is splitting the left of centre vote and is going to let in the right wing

[JamesWales]

The Green thing will pass. The guy get tied in knots when pinned down on anything. He is abusive as hell and rarely talks about Green issues. He's basically turning the Greens into a radical left wing party that seemingly has little to do with ecological issues.

As Sludge says, I don't know where it leaves Your Party. I would say this though. I would choose Corbyn over Green at the moment.

[Wash DC Blue]

So yourparty fit in where ?

Its frighteningly obvious that all this nonsense who is more virtuous is splitting the left of centre vote and is going to let in the right wing

That’s been the case for a long time Sludge and one of the reasons that many working class people become disillusioned with The Labour Party.
I wish that the likes of Blue Labour/Mick Lynch could get traction.

As for The Green Party…
Look at their manifesto, its views on immigration will appeal to the Internationalists who don’t believe in countries or borders, so their success depends on how many people in the country want open borders.

Maybe David Stephen Paulden (Zack Polanski) can hypnotize the electorate to going along with him.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

ThatÂ’s been the case for a long time Sludge and one of the reasons that many working class people become disillusioned with The Labour Party.
I wish that the likes of Blue Labour/Mick Lynch could get traction.

As for The Green PartyÂ…
Look at their manifesto, its views on immigration will appeal to the Internationalists who donÂ’t believe in countries or borders, so their success depends on how many people in the country want open borders.

Maybe David Stephen Paulden (Zack Polanski) can hypnotize the electorate to going along with him.

The country has too many political parties for a first past the post system now labour and the tories have declined

Its clearly just going to lead to reform getting in on a low vote just as people complained labour did

If yourparty come along and take 5 points off the greens and labour then its an even more disastrous outcome

Whilst I wouldnt favour a republican v Democrats idiotic situation a sort of merging of labour , lib dems , greens etc v reform and the tories would at least ensure that reform could be blunted

A uni left of centre party isnt ideal but I am afraid that's the reality now the right wing in the uk smell power

[William Treseder]

On the rise!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...he-green-surge

Zack Polanski becoming a brave and articulate media star. A rare sight!

Green support up to 15% (Reform 32%, Tories 17%, Labour 17%, Lib Dems 12%)

Green party membership up to 112,000 (Labour 309,000, Reform 260,000, Tories 123,000, Lib Dems 60,000).

Interesting.

Not sure if a guy who used to claim he could enlarge women’s breasts through hypnosis should be running the country 😁

[Heathblue]

On the rise!

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...he-green-surge

Zack Polanski becoming a brave and articulate media star. A rare sight!

Green support up to 15% (Reform 32%, Tories 17%, Labour 17%, Lib Dems 12%)

Green party membership up to 112,000 (Labour 309,000, Reform 260,000, Tories 123,000, Lib Dems 60,000).

Interesting.

Carol Vorders has dumped Starmer for the greens hasn't she ? The Greens are climate disciples which as you know isn't my way of thinking but I might vote for them if its a route to stop Reform.

[jon1959]

Carol Vorders has dumped Starmer for the greens hasn't she ? The Greens are climate disciples which as you know isn't my way of thinking but I might vote for them if its a route to stop Reform.

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The Green thing will pass. The guy get tied in knots when pinned down on anything. He is abusive as hell and rarely talks about Green issues. He's basically turning the Greens into a radical left wing party that seemingly has little to do with ecological issues.

As Sludge says, I don't know where it leaves Your Party. I would say this though. I would choose Corbyn over Green at the moment.

Probably doesn't need to talk about green issues though does he? We all know where the leader of the Green Party stands on green issues. Makes more sense for him to let people know what he stands for in a more general sense if he wants to attract a wider scope of voters

[JamesWales]

Probably doesn't need to talk about green issues though does he? We all know where the leader of the Green Party stands on green issues. Makes more sense for him to let people know what he stands for in a more general sense if he wants to attract a wider scope of voters

Yeah that is a fair point.

I think though, that green issues generally are not inherently left wing and most of his recent statements have been very left wing about topics wholly unrelated to green issues. I suspect he is doing that to grab attention (and that's working!) but there's limited appeal in it all and he is tripping himself up.

He was basically saying in a podcast interview I saw yesterday that whilst he is a vegan, doesn't drive and recycles etc, that all of these things are performative and make little difference in the face of global capitalism etc.

Interesting enough, but the idea that "we should all do our bit" and "collectively we can make a difference" is a cornerstone of green thinking for decades.

I should imagine a few of the older guard are cautiously looking on

[jon1959]

Green Party membership now higher than the Tories!

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Green Party membership now higher than the Tories!

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

I think this membership thing is a dead mackeral

Last night there was talk of a link up between yourparty and the greens

I think a left of centre party that could attract ex labour , lib , greens etc voters would be great so its pointless having your party and the greens ....just merge ff sake

And corbyn , sultana and polanski are too ego driven , they will be arguing like cats and dogs in no time ..bin all 3 and we might have a chance

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I think this membership thing is a dead mackeral

Last night there was talk of a link up between yourparty and the greens

I think a left of centre party that could attract ex labour , lib , greens etc voters would be great so its pointless having your party and the greens ....just merge ff sake

And corbyn , sultana and polanski are too ego driven , they will be arguing like cats and dogs in no time ..bin all 3 and we might have a chance

Do cats and dogs argue?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Do cats and dogs argue?

My old hound used to have a right go at any cat he saw , I assume it was over money or holidays

[Taunton Blue Genie]

My old hound used to have a right go at any cat he saw , I assume it was over money or holidays

A bit petulant then.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A bit petulant then.

You are barking up the wrong tree

[JamesWales]

Do cats and dogs argue?

I was more interested in the phrase "dead mackerel" which I've never heard before, but I quite like

[jon1959]

Only one poll, but this one has the Greens above Labour and the Tories (and the Lib Dems etc). Reform still in a clear lead.

https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2...dmarsdn8syijsb

[Coyote]

I have some issues with the Green Party, I worry they might fall into the same trappings that end up with capital capitulating progressive causes through divisive identity politics, which is what has contributed so much to the rise of the nationalist right. However, with Corbyn's party being an utter trainwreck, I decided to leave that and join the Greens for now. The need for economic reform is urgent above all else, and anyone suggesting Farage is a positive force for economic reform is categorically and ontologically incorrect.

[jon1959]

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...-party-holborn

Greens targeting over 50 Labour seats - and on current polling would win 47 of them (including Starmer's).

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...-party-holborn

Greens targeting over 50 Labour seats - and on current polling would win 47 of them (including Starmer's).

findoutnow pump out limited fieldwork polls every few days using their database of people who signed up to win money, I don't know the ins and outs of their methodology but I am not convinced I would trust it.

Polling was in a bit of a spin after the 2024 failure, to the naked eye it looks like turnout being so low completely ruined their ability to predict although the later larger sample size MRPs did start to go against the idea that Labour was going to get >40% so potentially were picking something up.

It's even harder for the pollsters to predict for greens/libdems because their voter base is even more transient.