Henry Nowak

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So am I

People who despite being asked by the young mans family come out in the street shouting white lives matter , carrying england flags , swigging cans are just as likely to be left wing as they are far right ?

How many of these people filmed on last nights trouble would you find on a palestinian march or a march against trump visiting the uk ?

You are insulting your own intelligence here , stop being an arsehole

Its ok to be wrong Sludge. Face it, you have no evidence those in the video are far right. All you know is they are involved in a riot.

I assume you were at the poll tax riots....can we assume you're far right as a result ?

[caerkid]

There is going to be a review into to the anti - racism legislation apparently. No doubt it’s needed as it’s been misinterpreted in numerous cases, and don’t let your own personal opinion get in the way of facts, which you do too often and it spoils this discussion platform.

Which bit of this awful case do you think that will change though ?

The police had been called to the incident as a 'fight', when they arrive they are lied to ,with 'witnesses' backing up the lies. The victim has very sadly got catastrophic internal injuries, and is conscious and talking. That's an absolute mess of a situation and I can see why, in the first 5 minutes of arriving ,they had the wrong idea of what had happened. None of which comes from anti-racism guidance sorry.

Their treatment of the kid as they handcuff him is absolutely inexcusable ,but that is about basic police training and processes, not anything Tommy 2 names or Nigel are talking about.

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Which bit of this awful case do you think that will change though ?

The police had been called to the incident as a 'fight', when they arrive they are lied to ,with 'witnesses' backing up the lies. The victim has very sadly got catastrophic internal injuries, and is conscious and talking. That's an absolute mess of a situation and I can see why, in the first 5 minutes of arriving ,they had the wrong idea of what had happened. None of which comes from anti-racism guidance sorry.

Their treatment of the kid as they handcuff him is absolutely inexcusable ,but that is about basic police training and processes, not anything Tommy 2 names or Nigel are talking about.

the anti racism legislation, whilst well intended, tends to place focus on "white on everyone else" attacks. The police arriving to what has been described as a racist attack, put 2 and 2 together and get 5.

How do you legislate for this....that's why we have politicians, to try and work out a sensible response.

[Tuerto]

the anti racism legislation, whilst well intended, tends to place focus on "white on everyone else" attacks. The police arriving to what has been described as a racist attack, put 2 and 2 together and get 5.

How do you legislate for this....that's why we have politicians, to try and work out a sensible response.

I haven't read much about this horrific case, are the Police treating it as a Racial attack-Murder? And for clarity, i would ask the same question if a white man had stabbed a black or Asian man.

[caerkid]

the anti racism legislation, whilst well intended, tends to place focus on "white on everyone else" attacks. The police arriving to what has been described as a racist attack, put 2 and 2 together and get 5.

I don't see that sorry. As far as I have read ,the family of the murderer had called the police and told them it was Nowak who was the attacker. I assume they were also lied to by the murderer ,but that was what the police were working with.

At that point they have a clear report of an attack, a 'victim' who is on the scene and lying to them, a number of 'witnesses' backing up that lie and an 'attacker' who unfortunately is fatally injured in a way that isn't instantly visible. That's not getting 5 from 2+2, that's being mislead and terrible circumstances colliding. You can take every racial aspect away from that and you are getting the same awful outcome sorry.

[Coyote]

I find it ironic the same rightoids who made fun of George Floyd for saying "I can't breathe" are now quoting it unironically in response to this. No shade of introspection or critical thought, just angry caveman rage.

But I knew the moment this happened this would be meat for the salivating knuckle-draggers who cry themselves to sleep after seeing a brown person.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Its ok to be wrong Sludge. Face it, you have no evidence those in the video are far right. All you know is they are involved in a riot.

I assume you were at the poll tax riots....can we assume you're far right as a result ?

The irony of you suggesting those union jack waving scum were left wing is fecking pathetic even by your standards

I was at the poll tax demos I didnt see any NF idiots there

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I see you have started to infest the other board now
I’ve copied this from it.


“You were seemingly kicked off Mike’s Board for being you, so you are now infesting this one with your narrow self-opinionated views and foul responses to those who dare to think differently

You have ruined another thread that had meaning when it started and all so you can hear the sound of your own voice!

Truly embarrassing; or at least it would be, if you had any self-awareness! “

If it was me I’d take the hint and take some time off it looks like you piss so many people off.

I think there are plenty of good posters on there

Not you though joff

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

There is going to be a review into to the anti - racism legislation apparently. No doubt it’s needed as it’s been misinterpreted in numerous cases, and don’t let your own personal opinion get in the way of facts, which you do too often and it spoils this discussion platform.

Ok joff , TLGW1 , on your little push bike

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The irony of you suggesting those union jack waving scum were left wing is fecking pathetic even by your standards

I was at the poll tax demos I didnt see any NF idiots there

The poll Tax, the old man and my mother were in London for the demo. I was around 17 when the poll tax kicked in. Living at home, i was an apprentice on £50 per week. I had to pay £380 poll tax for the year, nearly 8 weeks wages.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

The poll Tax, the old man and my mother were in London for the demo. I was around 17 when the poll tax kicked in. Living at home, i was an apprentice on £50 per week. I had to pay £380 poll tax for the year, nearly 8 weeks wages.

I was living in Oxford

We got a private bus down there but it got nasty pretty quickly so got the train home early

[Coyote]

Forewarning: Stuff may kick off in Cardiff after two incidents in Gabalfa and Barry Island respectively over the past few days.

Either tonight or Saturday.

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Forewarning: Stuff may kick off in Cardiff after two incidents in Gabalfa and Barry Island respectively over the past few days.

Either tonight or Saturday.

One of those stabbed has lost his leg ?

Was it race related or is it being stirred up ?

[Coyote]

One of those stabbed has lost his leg ?

Was it race related or is it being stirred up ?

Gabalfa one was masked kids on electric bikes. Someone told me it was Somalis, but it's just hearsay.

I know less about the Barry Island one, other than the victim needed an amputation.

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I was living in Oxford

We got a private bus down there but it got nasty pretty quickly so got the train home early

Which part of Oxford? i was back and forth their for 2 years, contracting on some huge houses in an area called Summertown. stayed in Headington, iffley road area (next door to the race track where Roger Bannister did the 4 minute mile. Cowley rd was the student area back then. Strange place is Oxford. I'm guessing you were a student in Brookes, unless there's something you're not telling us.......

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Gabalfa one was masked kids on electric bikes. Someone told me it was Somalis, but it's just hearsay.

I know less about the Barry Island one, other than the victim needed an amputation.

Hearsay never ends well

hopefully it will remain just that

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Which part of Oxford? i was back and forth their for 2 years, contracting on some huge houses in an area called Summertown. stayed in Headington, iffley road area (next door to the race track where Roger Bannister did the 4 minute mile. Cowley rd was the student area back then. Strange place is Oxford. I'm guessing you were a student in Brookes, unless there's something you're not telling us.......

I was studying then working

Lived in Cowley Road then Wood Farm next to a tower block

Oxfords rough in places , the locals are an angry little lot

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The irony of you suggesting those union jack waving scum were left wing is fecking pathetic even by your standards

I was at the poll tax demos I didnt see any NF idiots there

I've not suggested anyone was left wing (or right wing). I'll leave such sensationalism to you and similar reactionary folk.

[Tuerto]

I was studying then working

Lived in Cowley Road then Wood Farm next to a tower block

Oxfords rough in places , the locals are an angry little lot

I know wood farm, by windmill rd, tower block on the estate. Good chippy there. Worked on a house that overlooked wood farm on the old London rd, a place called The Ridings. It had 146 windows in it, and they wanted me to do it on price, yeah, right... Got some mad stories about that place. I'll leave it now because i'm derailing the thread.

[Bluebird Karen]

Ok joff , TLGW1 , on your little push bike

You’re funny you really are , do us a favour, have a break from it all for your own good

[William Treseder]

Yet another thread hijacked by Sludge.
It’s a complete waste of time getting involved.
Think i’ll stick to the football board. Luckily he’s been banished from that.

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I know wood farm, by windmill rd, tower block on the estate. Good chippy there. Worked on a house that overlooked wood farm on the old London rd, a place called The Ridings. It had 146 windows in it, and they wanted me to do it on price, yeah, right... Got some mad stories about that place. I'll leave it now because i'm derailing the thread.

Big estate , like Blackbird Leys

Some serious rioting there very much out of place with the image of Oxford

[Wales-Bales]

I was living in Oxford

We got a private bus down there but it got nasty pretty quickly so got the train home early

Were you at Magdalen College or Oxford University?

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Were you at Magdalen College or Oxford University?

I bet you were.

[Wales-Bales]

I bet you were.

I was just asking because nobody hires private transport to go to a riot!