Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Tue, 19 May 2015 01:36
Just my opinion - when the labour party was set up the needs of the working man were far greater than they are today. The unions were strong in number and voice and compared to today less than 1 in 5 workers see the benefit of being in a union. Workers are now enfranchised and can vote for change rather than rely on withdrawal of labour to achieve better working conditions.
Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Tue, 19 May 2015 01:30
a split could be a good idea - a trade union focused party that could focus on the needs on the 20% of workers and a labour party that focuses on the needs of the other 80% o workers With policies being set accordingly.
Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Tue, 19 May 2015 00:59
I am not sure whether i evny your coton wool world or dispair at your detachment from the reality of working conditions of millions of people in this country.
Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 14:23
I'm not sure what you are trying to say with today's inane witterings but rest assured I work for a living and I've just as good an idea of what is happening in the UK as you do.
Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 13:57
My point stands, less than 1 in 5 workers see the benefit of trade unions and as such the labour party has to factor that in when it decides whether it wants to be the party of the working man or the party of the trade unions.
Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 13:46
you also seem very defensive for someone who doesn't think much of the labour party
Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 13:38
If you are aware of the conditions people have to put up with in the work place, then you would not be stating that there is no need for trade unions. Simple as that.
Quote Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 13:33
The fact that there are less people in unions now than before is because of the break up of industry and the growth of SMEs were trade union organisation is nye on impossible. It has nothing to do with the actual need for a trade union.
Quote Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Mon, 18 May 2015 13:22
I am not defending the Labour Party, i am defending the right of trade unions to have a say in the party they created and have funded for over 100 years. The reason i dont vote labour is because it pays no attention to the people that created it or the people it was created for.
Remarkable.