Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
Do we know if there was (still) consent right at the point where sex commenced?
If so, then that is all there is to it between her and Macdonald - at that time.

However, 'how about it then'? - yeah OK' in a bar sometime earlier doesn't stand as 'in the bag' for Macdonald for the rest of whole night. (let alone 'phone a friend').
She can change her mind. (as can he!)

Only if that consent is revoked or expired or doesn't cover 'other events' does it become something more sinister.
I was referring to consent with Evans according to Macdonald.

I seem to remember the court papers saying she couldn't remember, which is different to saying "no". Especially when the only other witnesses say she did consent.

The part that sits most uncomfortably is that the emphasis was onto Evans to decide how sober she was, when it's proved she hadn't been drugged so it was stuff she'd drunk. If she is comatose then yes he's clearly a rapist, if she's drunk and consenting I think it's down to the individual.

The whole thing leaves more questions than answers.