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  • #16
    Re: Newport GK just scored!

    Originally posted by IanD View Post
    Had the ball gone straight in, without entering play, the correct decision is no goal and the ref awards a corner. Same if a GK takes a goal kick and it goes straight into his (or her) own net. Saw this nearly happen when reffing straight after the October 87 Great Storm. A GK took the kick, the ball went up into the air and the wind took it back and just over the bar. Same applies from a throw in if it goes straight in the net without touching the ground or a player.
    Law 15 covers the throw in, if it goes directly into the opponents goals, a goal kick is awarded. If it goes directly into the thrower’s goals, a corner kick is awarded.
    Again the ball is live as soon as it enters the field of play, it doesn’t have to bounce.

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    • #17
      Re: Newport GK just scored!

      Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
      After they went bust the reformed as AFC Newport and then a few years later we’re renamed as Newport County, that’s why Exiles they have that nickname
      I get that but, once back home, it would have been nice to revert to their original moniker.

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      • #18
        Re: Newport GK just scored!

        Originally posted by splott parker View Post
        The

        Law 16.
        Procedure.
        Item 2. The ball is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves.

        It doesn’t have to bounce.
        Someone changed the rules! I'm convinced....years ago admittedly....the ball wasnt in play from a goal kick until it touched another player or the ground. Therefore a corner is awarded if the ball goes directly into the opposition goal directly from a goal kick. Any (old) refs on here who can confirm that change?

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        • #19
          Re: Newport GK just scored!

          Tan signing him up as we speak.

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          • #20
            Re: Newport GK just scored!

            Originally posted by IanD View Post
            Someone changed the rules! I'm convinced....years ago admittedly....the ball wasnt in play from a goal kick until it touched another player or the ground. Therefore a corner is awarded if the ball goes directly into the opposition goal directly from a goal kick. Any (old) refs on here who can confirm that change?
            I think it’s always been a corner if the ball blows back and goes into the kicker’s goals but I do think that in the past if it went the length of the pitch directly into the opponents goals without touching any other player, a goal kick was awarded to the opponents, not a corner to the kicker’s team. It must be a fairly recent change that a goal is awarded direct from a goal kick but a goal it is as the law now states and Newport’s ‘keeper has proved.

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            • #21
              Re: Newport GK just scored!

              Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
              After they went bust the reformed as AFC Newport and then a few years later we’re renamed as Newport County, that’s why Exiles they have that nickname
              I'm not sure what "that’s why Exiles they have that nickname" means but, the Exiles nickname is because the played away from Newport for a few years. It's nothing to do changes in structure of the club or it's name.

              BTW, How many goalies have scored from a kick in their own penalty area since Alex Stepney and Pat Jennings did it years ago?

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              • #22
                Re: Newport GK just scored!

                Originally posted by RichardM View Post
                I'm not sure what "that’s why Exiles they have that nickname" means but, the Exiles nickname is because the played away from Newport for a few years. It's nothing to do changes in structure of the club or it's name.

                BTW, How many goalies have scored from a kick in their own penalty area since Alex Stepney and Pat Jennings did it years ago?
                You're right - they weren't allowed to play in Wales by yhe FAW when they wouldn't join the League of Wales and they decided to play in exile on a number of grounds in the Cotswolds, starting with Moreton in the Marsh.

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                • #23
                  Re: Newport GK just scored!

                  Originally posted by RichardM View Post
                  I'm not sure what "that’s why Exiles they have that nickname" means but, the Exiles nickname is because the played away from Newport for a few years. It's nothing to do changes in structure of the club or it's name.
                  That’s my way of thinking, AFC Newport were the Exiles, Newport County (which they are back to being called) are the Ironsides.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Newport GK just scored!

                    It doesn’t make any particular sense in their current situation, although sure county fans have an attachment to the ‘exiles’ moniker due to their battle with the FAW and years in the wilderness. I do prefer ‘Ironsides’ myself personally.

                    I imagine it never had the opportunity to took root for long enough but were the city ever referred to as the ‘riversiders’ at any point in our history?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Newport GK just scored!

                      Originally posted by MacAdder View Post
                      Brilliant strike.
                      I reckon he meant it too, sure one or two will disagree though.
                      Is this a long standing forum joke because there's no way you can believe he meant it haha

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                      • #26
                        Re: Newport GK just scored!

                        Originally posted by splott parker View Post
                        I think it’s always been a corner if the ball blows back and goes into the kicker’s goals but I do think that in the past if it went the length of the pitch directly into the opponents goals without touching any other player, a goal kick was awarded to the opponents, not a corner to the kicker’s team. It must be a fairly recent change that a goal is awarded direct from a goal kick but a goal it is as the law now states and Newport’s ‘keeper has proved.
                        I think , again, I'm conflating two things. If a keeper takes a goal kick, the wind takes it back into his own net without it being touched...it's a corner. If the keeper tries to save it (or another player) and it goes into his own net...it's a goal. Different of the ball goes into the opposition net. I'll see if rule changes over the years may have given a different interpretation. A mate of mine's brother used to be a ref. His last match was....City v QPR, years back. I'll enquire. In the meantime, I'm looking for an example of a keeper who has scored directly from a goal kick, without the ball touching the ground.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Newport GK just scored!

                          Originally posted by IanD View Post
                          I think , again, I'm conflating two things. If a keeper takes a goal kick, the wind takes it back into his own net without it being touched...it's a corner. If the keeper tries to save it (or another player) and it goes into his own net...it's a goal. Different of the ball goes into the opposition net. I'll see if rule changes over the years may have given a different interpretation. A mate of mine's brother used to be a ref. His last match was....City v QPR, years back. I'll enquire. In the meantime, I'm looking for an example of a keeper who has scored directly from a goal kick, without the ball touching the ground.
                          I don't think touching the ground is going to have anything to do with it. Touching another player is understandable.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Newport GK just scored!

                            Originally posted by Michael Morris View Post
                            He must have a foot like a traction engine.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Newport GK just scored!

                              Originally posted by IanD View Post
                              I think , again, I'm conflating two things. If a keeper takes a goal kick, the wind takes it back into his own net without it being touched...it's a corner. If the keeper tries to save it (or another player) and it goes into his own net...it's a goal. Different of the ball goes into the opposition net. I'll see if rule changes over the years may have given a different interpretation. A mate of mine's brother used to be a ref. His last match was....City v QPR, years back. I'll enquire. In the meantime, I'm looking for an example of a keeper who has scored directly from a goal kick, without the ball touching the ground.
                              In the example you give if the keeper touches his own goal kick on the way into their own net it is an indirect free kick to the opposition where it was touched as no other player has touched it (it's like a keeper scuffing a pass and getting to the ball before the forward to clear).

                              If his own players tries to clear it is a goal.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Newport GK just scored!

                                Originally posted by Kind of Blue View Post
                                It doesn’t make any particular sense in their current situation, although sure county fans have an attachment to the ‘exiles’ moniker due to their battle with the FAW and years in the wilderness. I do prefer ‘Ironsides’ myself personally.

                                I imagine it never had the opportunity to took root for long enough but were the city ever referred to as the ‘riversiders’ at any point in our history?
                                We were known as The Citizens I always thought, and the Echo reporter who covered us in the 1920s pen name was Citizen.

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