Next up....... Warnock

[Enoch Mort]

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From my point of view he gets major credit for turning the team around and getting us promoted but these are significantly outweighed by relegation, costly screw ups in the transfer market, style of football, failure in the return to the Championship, detrimental interference in youth development at the club, his short termism and other pernicious aspects of his management. I hope that Boro, NML and Colin Wanker fail abysmally on Saturday ,

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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From my point of view he gets major credit for turning the team around and getting us promoted but these are significantly outweighed by relegation, costly screw ups in the transfer market, style of football, failure in the return to the Championship, detrimental interference in youth development at the club, his short termism and other pernicious aspects of his management. I hope that Boro, NML and Colin Wanker fail abysmally on Saturday ,

Some very valid comments but regarding short-termism, all managers are seven or eight poor games from the chop, which makes long-term planning very difficult.

[Enoch Mort]

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Some very valid comments but regarding short-termism, all managers are seven or eight poor games from the chop, which makes long-term planning very difficult.

Agreed but when that short termism engenders a belief in the youth structure that they are never going to get a chance in the first team then you lose the likes of Sion Spence. I’m not saying that he is going to be the next best thing but if we do ever turn up another Rambo then you would like to think that there would be no reason for him to seek pastures new. Thankfully, the youth structure seems to be buzzing now.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Agreed but when that short termism engenders a belief in the youth structure that they are never going to get a chance in the first team then you lose the likes of Sion Spence. I’m not saying that he is going to be the next best thing but if we do ever turn up another Rambo then you would like to think that there would be no reason for him to seek pastures new. Thankfully, the youth structure seems to be buzzing now.

You are not wrong, old fruit.

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

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He was brilliant for us in his first two seasons, and wasn't a million miles away from keeping us up (despite some very strange decisions ie the Healey debacle at Fulham).

I wouldn't say he ruined his reputation here after the relegation but he definitely soured it. I don't think you can underestimate what a good opportunity he squandered with his signings in that window, especially given the cost cutting that has gone on since. He certainly didn't leave us in a good place with aging players on long contracts, and you have to factor that in to any assessment of his time here.

Some of his "arrangements" with certain agents don't sit particularly well, either.

[surge]

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Fulham away game in the premier league was probably the turning point for how he's seen. Fulham home game in the following Championship season, where we didn't look like winning despite them playing 20+ minutes with 10 men, cemented that more negative feeling for some of us.

Not a lot of time really between those two games and up until that first Fulham game he'd probably only get good reviews. Still, I don't think we'll be promoted this season or next because of the mess he left us in.

[PhyllisStant]

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Guaranteed Warnock will do his usual 'it was down to me' win or loose by saying something like. 'When you look at their squad it's one of the best in the league and it's not changed much since I built it.'

[theclaw]

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My only worry is these players are going to get tired at some point as we have started the same 11 for a couple of games now.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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I really do not get where any antagonism towards Neil Warnock comes from.

I hope we smash Boro but that has zip to do with Warnock.

He was what we needed and more.
Brilliant for us and should be remembered very fondly!

Agreed, worked wonders on and more importantly off the pitch.

[IanD]

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yeah, but I was actually thinking about Derby

6 inches🙂

[Cleve van Leef]

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Agreed, worked wonders on and more importantly off the pitch.

Some on this board and other boards forget what he actually achieved. Things never change.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Some on this board and other boards forget what he actually achieved. Things never change.

Possibly more important in the long run wasn't his rise and fall but the fact he brought a sense of cohesion and positivity after the incredible toxicity at the club following the rebrand. I think he brought a lot of fans back from the brink of losing interest altogether.

[xsnaggle]

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My only worry is these players are going to get tired at some point as we have started the same 11 for a couple of games now.

It is a concern but I think when you're up there and playing the teams immediately around you you have to put your best team out to start. Then it is up to the manager managing his replacements.
If we can stabilise our position in the top 6 there may be chances for some others in less difficult matches (Is there any such thing in the championship? ) and then the people not playing can be on the bench in case they're needed.

[RonnieBird]

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This is another six pointer. It'd be very helpful to win it but it's also true to say that we're pushing our luck at the moment in terms of the the laws of probability and there must come a point soon when we have one or two disappointing results. Having said that, if we could beat Middlesborough that'd make the possibility of consolidation in the playoff places a lot more practical.
I've always insisted that this is our natural minimum achievement level with this squad but my only misgiving is whether we've put our sprint in a bit early.

[xsnaggle]

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This is another six pointer. It'd be very helpful to win it but it's also true to say that we're pushing our luck at the moment in terms of the the laws of probability and there must come a point soon when we have one or two disappointing results. Having said that, if we could beat Middlesborough that'd make the possibility of consolidation in the playoff places a lot more practical.
I've always insisted that this is our natural minimum achievement level with this squad but my only misgiving is whether we've put our sprint in a bit early.

It's not a sprint. Mr Drakeford said so!!!!!