Spare a thought for Ryan Giggs

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Wales are unbeaten since Ryan Giggs left.

Just like his wife

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Wales are unbeaten since Ryan Giggs left.

Just like his wife

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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I like him as a footballer and a coach.

His personal life is sod all to do with me. He was an adulterer, I bet most pro footballers are and many people on this board are.

He's been accused of hitting his wife. Lets wait to see if he's guilty.

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I like him as a footballer and a coach.

His personal life is sod all to do with me. He was an adulterer, I bet most pro footballers are and many people on this board are.

He's been accused of hitting his wife. Lets wait to see if he's guilty.

There's adultery and then there's sleeping with your brother's wife for 8 years. Smiling your way through all those family gatherings, their kids hanging out with Uncle Ryan, that's some cold heartedness I can't get my head around.

Also I believe it's headbutting his partner he's been accused of

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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There's adultery and then there's sleeping with your brother's wife for 8 years. Smiling your way through all those family gatherings, their kids hanging out with Uncle Ryan, that's some cold heartedness I can't get my head around.

Also I believe it's headbutting his partner he's been accused of

Maybe they weren't a family like yours or mine so none of that had to happen. Maybe they wee madly in love and mulled over running off together and living happily ever after.

He was and still is IMO the best player to come out of Wales in my lifetime.

[William Treseder]

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62 caps but never showed up for Wales games ffs 🤣🤣

62 caps for a player with his talent and long career is pitiful. Gunter has over 30 more!!
He’s a rat..

[Divine Wright]

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I believe that there comes a point when shitness eclipses greatness. I think Giggs is getting there.

Also, you can come back from sporting failure. I don't think the same can be said for physically abusing women.

Even if he came to manage Cardiff City and got us into the Europa League , I don't think I'd ever feel entirely comfortable sharing such a happy moment with a fella like that.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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I believe that there comes a point when shitness eclipses greatness. I think Giggs is getting there.

Also, you can come back from sporting failure. I don't think the same can be said for physically abusing women.

Even if he came to manage Cardiff City and got us into the Europa League , I don't think I'd ever feel entirely comfortable sharing such a happy moment with a fella like that.

Anthony Joshua seems to do alright.

[NYCBlue]

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That's pretty unfair mate.

I'm not going to defend his personal life as it does some pretty chaotic and he obviously has many issues, but in a football capacity he get's way too much stick form Welsh people.

64 caps for Wales, more than Chris Coleman for example and many of the Welsh cult hero players. Didn't play friendlies, who cares? I've seen this board clamour for Kieffer Moore not to be played in Wales games to give him a rest, how times have changed. Do we slate Rambo for only playing a handful of Wales games recently?

In games his output for Wales was on par with his performances for Man Utd, so you can't throw the 'he didn't care' stick at him either.

As a manger, he qualified for a major tournament at the first attempt while blooding numerous youngsters and giving the likes of Kieffer Moore, James Lawrence etc their chance at international level.

From my point of view his biggest 'football' crime was playing for Man Utd during a very successful period. Lots of Welsh people support Liverpool or have a very strange hatred of Man Utd in the 90's, and dislike him just for that reason. Pretty pathetic. As a City fan, I couldn't give a toss about who he played for considering that for the majority of that era, we were at the lower end of the football league, Man Utd was not really on my radar.

He has pissed on his chips royally though, and he has wasted a huge opportunity to lead his country on the world stage. I don't think he can continue to be Wales manager and I think he should resign. But don't forget, this is his team, he got us here, you have to give him credit for that.

This.

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most I knew at the time who were city / wales fans were annoyed when he didnt turn up for a friendly as he was injured but in 3 days time would be bombing down the wing for Utd ( we all knew it was a convenient injury so he didnt need to travel )

now of course, people will say " but he turned up for the game that mattered " which is true, but these friendlies are played as part of training and a full team just might have been the difference of us winning the next game or not, we then have to ask ourselves, what was the point of us fans shelling out our hard earned money to watch a friendly ?

he made his choices then and must live them then now ( though i suspect he doesnt really care that much )

It's well documented that Alex Ferguson put huge pressure on his players not to play in friendlies. I can't say I blame either of them really. As for shelling out your hard-earned money, that's up to you, isn't it?

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Maybe they weren't a family like yours or mine so none of that had to happen. Maybe they wee madly in love and mulled over running off together and living happily ever after.

He was and still is IMO the best player to come out of Wales in my lifetime.

What, better than Bale? - No way!
Giggs had pace, but Bale was another level. Bale could influence a game far greater than Giggs.

[Jordi Culé]

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I believe that there comes a point when shitness eclipses greatness. I think Giggs is getting there.

Also, you can come back from sporting failure. I don't think the same can be said for physically abusing women.

Even if he came to manage Cardiff City and got us into the Europa League , I don't think I'd ever feel entirely comfortable sharing such a happy moment with a fella like that.

Playing devils advocate, would you say the same about Craig Bellamy?

[the other bob wilson]

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What, better than Bale? - No way!
Giggs had pace, but Bale was another level. Bale could influence a game far greater than Giggs.

I agree, time was Giggs supporters could point to his medal collection as proof of being the better of the two, but I heard Nathan Blake reading out what Bale had won at Real Madrid and it no longer applies - he's won four Champions League winners medals and with at least of them, he had a major influence in deciding the outcome of the Final. Given Bale's attitude to his home country as well, he has to be, possibly, the best Wales player ever and definitely above Giggs.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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at least a few times a night

bored in town ? ? ? go and abuse Danny

Saw a picture of Danny a few years back, looks like a old man now ( which i know he is )

Danny Wilson was always a sombre, unsmiling character, whenever I saw him working the doors (okay, perhaps understandable in that profession) and he looked exactly the same whenever 'relaxing' over a pint down the docks too. He always seemed 'on edge', almost waiting for something to happen.

Wilson used to beat Gigg's mother, which is why he later disowned his father.
They say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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62 caps for a player with his talent and long career is pitiful. Gunter has over 30 more!!
He’s a rat..

Craig Bellamy 78 caps
Dean Saunders 75 caps
Ian Rush 73 caps
Mark Hughes 72 caps

Does the same apply to these also?