stutter run-ups

[Rjk]

for penalties. is it just me or do they miss more often than they score?
I wish they'd stop doing them.

also when teams sub on players at the end of extra time, just to take penalties they always seem to lose

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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for penalties. is it just me or do they miss more often than they score?
I wish they'd stop doing them.

also when teams sub on players at the end of extra time, just to take penalties they always seem to lose

Players using the hesitation method trade in the power aspect. If the keeper guesses the right side to dive then there's a better chance he can keep it out. It was certainly the common denominator last night.

[lardy]

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Players using the hesitation method trade in the power aspect. If the keeper guesses the right side to dive then there's a better chance he can keep it out. It was certainly the common denominator last night.

It's supposed to take a keepers guess out of the equation. The taker should be able to react to seeing him move and choose the other side.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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It's supposed to take a keepers guess out of the equation. The taker should be able to react to seeing him move and choose the other side.

Of course. It would be interesting to see some stats as to how well it works in practice as a split-second assessment has to be made by the penalty taker.

[City123]

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It's supposed to take a keepers guess out of the equation. The taker should be able to react to seeing him move and choose the other side.

We're nearing the point where keepers are wise to it though, so it loses the effect. Pickford knew exactly what Jorginho was going to do so just waited until he hit the ball

[RonnieBird]

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Unless you’re Marcus Rashford, in which case it doesn’t matter whether there’s a goalkeeper there or not because you can’t even hit the target.
I really wanted to see Grealish miss one.

[surge]

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Unless you’re Marcus Rashford, in which case it doesn’t matter whether there’s a goalkeeper there or not because you can’t even hit the target.
I really wanted to see Grealish miss one.

All players are capable of missing a penalty - you and your team just have to make sure you win the game anyway - but not all players remember where they've come from and do so much good work for vulnerable children.

Weirdly, it was probably Italy keeping the ball in play with Rashford and Sancho stuck on sidelines that made the difference. Nothing wrong with bringing on later specialist penalty-takers but we like goalies to get an early, unpressured touch of the ball and forwards probably need to kick a ball in anger before a penalty shoot-out too.

[lardy]

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We're nearing the point where keepers are wise to it though, so it loses the effect. Pickford knew exactly what Jorginho was going to do so just waited until he hit the ball

It's more than skill, it's a battle of mental nerve and game theory.

[Elwood Blues]

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Ever since I saw Pete Hooper bang them in back in the sixties (still probably the hardest shots I have ever seen) and Ronnie Bird doing the same a few years later I have always preferred the hit it as hard as possible in the corner method.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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It's supposed to take a keepers guess out of the equation. The taker should be able to react to seeing him move and choose the other side.

But very often the savvy goalkeeper stays central when he can see a 'stutter pelanty" unfolding in front of him.
I'm convinced when that happens the pelanty taker often hasn't thought it out thoroughly, and has to make a split-second decision about which side to now put it.

They would do well to copy the technique of the late, great, Peter Whittingham.

[Rjk]

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most of the great penalty takers I can think of all banged it in as hard as they could.

kane, shearer, Lambert, chilavert. Alexander
le tissier placed them rather than blasted but I can't think of anyone who tried to do a stutter run up who has a good record over a long period.

[BLUETIT]

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Unless you’re Marcus Rashford, in which case it doesn’t matter whether there’s a goalkeeper there or not because you can’t even hit the target.
I really wanted to see Grealish miss one.

It's a wonder Kane never "FELL OVER" on his run up !!!

First time in the game that he stayed on his feet, after taking four strides :hehe:

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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It's a wonder Kane never "FELL OVER" on his run up !!!

First time in the game that he stayed on his feet, after taking four strides :hehe:

Kane should have been pulled off at around 60 minutes, he had nothing in the tank after that.
He didn't close down the opposition, his passing was weak and he simply jogged around.
England played with 10 men for most of the second half onwards.

[BlueArmy 86]

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most of the great penalty takers I can think of all banged it in as hard as they could.

kane, shearer, Lambert, chilavert. Alexander
le tissier placed them rather than blasted but I can't think of anyone who tried to do a stutter run up who has a good record over a long period.

Jorginho? I know he missed last night, but he has a great record from the spot. Also, his isn't a complete stop stutter, its just a hop before he strikes it.

[Trigger]

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Was surprised jorginho missed, usually so cool and roles it in.

I do prefer Maguires type of pen though, run up smash it top bins, run back.