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  • #16
    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

    Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
    Beyond burger is not a burger, its a vegetable patty. See how many they would sell if they called it that. Amazing how vegetarians and vegans spend half their time trying to recreate food that looks and tastes like meat. Whats that all about. Meat eaters should prepare food, that looks and tastes vegan/vegetarian, out of meat - that would soon become popular and avoid the need for vegans to look down their noses when they see people eating meat.

    The vast majority of vegetarians and vegans didn't stop eating meat because they didn't like the taste of it. No, it's much deeper than that.

    Most people who go vegetarian or vegan do so for the animals, for their own health, or for the environment (or a combination of these). Rarely will you find someone who went vegetarian or vegan because they didn't like the taste of meat.

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    • #17
      Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

      Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
      Beyond burger is not a burger, its a vegetable patty. See how many they would sell if they called it that. Amazing how vegetarians and vegans spend half their time trying to recreate food that looks and tastes like meat. Whats that all about. Meat eaters should prepare food, that looks and tastes vegan/vegetarian, out of meat - that would soon become popular and avoid the need for vegans to look down their noses when they see people eating meat.
      It's not amazing at all though. We humans are prone to deeply ingrained habits and predilections, many of which we have been habituated to most of our lives. Seeking a substitute that partly satisfies our deep-rooting cravings explains not only the phenomenon you mention above but also the consumption of alcohol-free beer and vaping. I'm sure that we all have habits that we have difficulty eschewing whether they relate to comestibles or not.

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      • #18
        Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

        Originally posted by lardy View Post
        Would people be less inclined to buy burgers if they were called meat patties?
        In my opinion, burgers traditionally do and should, contain meat. However, one of the reasons meat free versions are also called burgers is because it makes them easier to sell. I would have thought that any self respecting vegan or vegetarian wouldn't go anywhere near something called a burger or something that was created to look like a meat burger but they do. I don't understand why someone of this persuasion would want to make their food look like it contains meat (or even eggs in the vegan breakfasts) but they do. I think I know why beyond call it a burger - its a clever marketing ploy to sell more because some people would think it was a real beef burger, if they just went by the name and wouldn't buy it otherwise. I have great respect and absolutely no problem with people that are vegan or vegetarian (my daughter and son in law are both) but just don’t get this ‘crusade’ to make the different types of food look and taste the same. Unless of course it is because some (not all) vegan and vegetarian dishes look and taste so unappetising. At least that's what my luddite meat eating palate tells me.

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        • #19
          Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

          Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
          In my opinion, burgers traditionally do and should, contain meat. However, one of the reasons meat free versions are also called burgers is because it makes them easier to sell. I would have thought that any self respecting vegan or vegetarian wouldn't go anywhere near something called a burger or something that was created to look like a meat burger but they do. I don't understand why someone of this persuasion would want to make their food look like it contains meat (or even eggs in the vegan breakfasts) but they do. I think I know why beyond call it a burger - its a clever marketing ploy to sell more because some people would think it was a real beef burger, if they just went by the name and wouldn't buy it otherwise. I have great respect and absolutely no problem with people that are vegan or vegetarian (my daughter and son in law are both) but just don’t get this ‘crusade’ to make the different types of food look and taste the same. Unless of course it is because some (not all) vegan and vegetarian dishes look and taste so unappetising. At least that's what my luddite meat eating palate tells me.
          Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that there isn't something to be understood.

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          • #20
            Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

            Originally posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
            We use the richmond ones for our hot dogs . They are quality as well.
            I'm happy to accept that vegetarian sausages / burgers are nice. find it a lot more difficult to grapple with the concept that Richmond make any kind of decent sausage, let alone a vegetarian one.

            Mind you, some of their "meat" sausages contain only 42% actual meat (the bare minimum you have to to still call it a pork sausage), so perhaps they've got a bit of a head start on other sausage manufacturers in fonding other stuff to cram in there.

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            • #21
              Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

              Originally posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
              No , they are superb . Our best sellers , twice the price of a beef burger though.
              I will give one ago .

              I used to love the old Wimpy Bean Burger that boy would deliver some gas , tasty as well

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              • #22
                Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                In my opinion, burgers traditionally do and should, contain meat. However, one of the reasons meat free versions are also called burgers is because it makes them easier to sell. I would have thought that any self respecting vegan or vegetarian wouldn't go anywhere near something called a burger or something that was created to look like a meat burger but they do. I don't understand why someone of this persuasion would want to make their food look like it contains meat (or even eggs in the vegan breakfasts) but they do. I think I know why beyond call it a burger - its a clever marketing ploy to sell more because some people would think it was a real beef burger, if they just went by the name and wouldn't buy it otherwise. I have great respect and absolutely no problem with people that are vegan or vegetarian (my daughter and son in law are both) but just don’t get this ‘crusade’ to make the different types of food look and taste the same. Unless of course it is because some (not all) vegan and vegetarian dishes look and taste so unappetising. At least that's what my luddite meat eating palate tells me.
                Got it, thanks. If I have any more questions about it, I'll be sure to ask.

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                • #23
                  Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                  Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                  Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that there isn't something to be understood.
                  Don't disagree with that.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                    Originally posted by lardy View Post
                    Got it, thanks. If I have any more questions about it, I'll be sure to ask.
                    Unnecessary sarcasm. Its just my take on it. You might disagree.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                      Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                      Unnecessary sarcasm. Its just my take on it. You might disagree.
                      It was just an unexpectedly long reply which didn't really answer my question.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                        Don't disagree with that.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                          Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                          Unnecessary sarcasm. Its just my take on it. You might disagree.
                          You seem to assume that the only people who eat these are vegans. I am a meat eater. But I also eat beyond burgers and loads of other meat replacements. I also eat pasta replacements. I do this in part for health reasons, but also because I prefer the taste.

                          In continuation of my previous thread on meat replacements:I've been having them all week. Quorn cocktail sausages were decent but salty; wicked chorizo bangers tasted good but we a bit pasty. Tesco "ham" replacement tho was a disgrace.

                          Also been trying the burger king vegan menu. It's not bad- although I suspect the vegan chicken burger they gave me was just a standard chicken burger. If not: amazingly realistic

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                          • #28
                            Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                            We need to get away from meat anyway, all these fecking cows in thier millions farting into the atmos isn't helping is it?
                            i can see a fart tax in the future.You read it here first.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                              Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                              Beyond burger is not a burger, its a vegetable patty. See how many they would sell if they called it that. Amazing how vegetarians and vegans spend half their time trying to recreate food that looks and tastes like meat. Whats that all about. Meat eaters should prepare food, that looks and tastes vegan/vegetarian, out of meat - that would soon become popular and avoid the need for vegans to look down their noses when they see people eating meat.
                              I won't be preaching, although I know plenty of them do.

                              Just decided to cut down on meat and I know I won't do it just eating veg.. And I like dairy as well so there's that. I've tasted them, they could call them horse shit shaped like a burger and I'd eat them again, because they're actually very tasty.

                              Do you know what a chicken sandwich is? No, it's not braces extra thick with your mother's roast chicken in the middle, it's a chicken burger in a burger bun. But they call it a chicken sandwich, yet a beef burger in a burger bun is called a burger, point is, beyond meat burgers are burgers..

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                              • #30
                                Re: Beyond Meat Burgers

                                Originally posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
                                We use the richmond ones for our hot dogs . They are quality as well.
                                Will be throwing them in to try as soon as I can pull myself out of the bath.. A other reason to cut out neat and processed shit.. Energy levels!!

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