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[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Portugal has two cup competitions - the Taca de Portugal (FA Cup) and the Taca da Liga (a league cup for the top two divsions).

Germany dabbled with a second cup competition and which involved just 6 clubs but did away with it after three seasons -so it's a 'nein' from Deutschland.

By the way, I wonder if more people partook of jus de vache when the Milk Cup was around.

[lardy]

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I think the tournament has had its day.

No idea but do other countries of 2 cup competitions?

I've long said it should be a football league only competition. It would mean a lot more.

How excited can Man City's fans be when they win it four times in a row, and five times in the last six? Or six out of the last eight?

If it's only for football league clubs, then fans who rarely get to Wembley will have a proper chance of seeing their team win a trophy. And let's face it, that is basically every club in the football league.

[dml1954]

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I've long said it should be a football league only competition. It would mean a lot more.

How excited can Man City's fans be when they win it four times in a row, and five times in the last six? Or six out of the last eight?

If it's only for football league clubs, then fans who rarely get to Wembley will have a proper chance of seeing their team win a trophy. And let's face it, that is basically every club in the football league.

If an EFL club wins the current competition, they go into the Europa Cup. If Premier League teams were banned from entering, then it is very likely that European qualification for the winners would be removed. Also teams outside the top six in the Prem can currently go for European qualification by winning it. To alter its current format would therefore cause more harm than good - so in my opinion, leave it alone.

[lardy]

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If an EFL club wins the current competition, they go into the Europa Cup. If Premier League teams were banned from entering, then it is very likely that European qualification for the winners would be removed. Also teams outside the top six in the Prem can currently go for European qualification by winning it. To alter its current format would therefore cause more harm than good - so in my opinion, leave it alone.

Is qualifying for Europe the most attractive part of it?

I'd imagine if you asked fans of championship clubs (wonder where we could find any) if they would rather have a miniscule chance of winning it and getting into Europe, or a realistic chance and no Europe, I bet they'd choose the latter.

I don't think my suggestion will happen. Not because of this, but because it'll be deemed less attractive for sponsors without a glamour final. But it would surely breathe life back into a competition that no one gives a shit about any more.

[The Lone Gunman]

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I don't think my suggestion will happen. Not because of this, but because it'll be deemed less attractive for sponsors without a glamour final. But it would surely breathe life back into a competition that no one gives a shit about any more.

Is that true?

The last time fans were able to attend games, the crowds for the quarter finals of the EFL Cup were as follows:

17,342 - Middlesbrough v Burton Albion
24,644 - Leicester v Manchester City
40,432 - Chelsea v Bournemouth
59,016 - Arsenal v Tottenham

Those attendances don't suggest to me that nobody gives a shit about the League Cup any more.

It's always been a competition that has sat below the league and the FA Cup in the pecking order for most fans, but I don't think things are any different in that respect to how they were ten or twenty years ago.

[Rjk]

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Is that true?

The last time fans were able to attend games, the crowds for the quarter finals of the EFL Cup were as follows:

17,342 - Middlesbrough v Burton Albion
24,644 - Leicester v Manchester City
40,432 - Chelsea v Bournemouth
59,016 - Arsenal v Tottenham

Those attendances don't suggest to me that nobody gives a shit about the League Cup any more.

It's always been a competition that has sat below the league and the FA Cup in the pecking order for most fans, but I don't think things are any different in that respect to how they were ten or twenty years ago.

Certainly by the time you reach the latter stages people care about it, over the years the early rounds seem to have become a little less important.

I'm sure that teams at this level never used to play so many reserves in the EFL games - some of the bigger premier league clubs yes, but that was it - but perhaps that is my poor memory.
We even saw West Brom sending the reserves out against Arsenal the other day.

[Lawnmower]

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Is that true?

The last time fans were able to attend games, the crowds for the quarter finals of the EFL Cup were as follows:

17,342 - Middlesbrough v Burton Albion
24,644 - Leicester v Manchester City
40,432 - Chelsea v Bournemouth
59,016 - Arsenal v Tottenham

Those attendances don't suggest to me that nobody gives a shit about the League Cup any more.

It's always been a competition that has sat below the league and the FA Cup in the pecking order for most fans, but I don't think things are any different in that respect to how they were ten or twenty years ago.

Don’t some clubs include these games on their season tickets.
May be the case with Boro as that crowd is exceptional in comparison to most similar fixtures

[The Lone Gunman]

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Don’t some clubs include these games on their season tickets. May be the case with Boro as that crowd is exceptional in comparison to most similar fixtures

You've lost me. You reckon 17,342 was exceptional for a League Cup quarter final? Middlesbrough had 21,985 for their last Championship home game before the cup tie (Blackburn) and 30,341 for their next Championship game (Sheffield Wednesday).

[Croesy Blue]

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Certainly by the time you reach the latter stages people care about it, over the years the early rounds seem to have become a little less important.

I'm sure that teams at this level never used to play so many reserves in the EFL games - some of the bigger premier league clubs yes, but that was it - but perhaps that is my poor memory.
We even saw West Brom sending the reserves out against Arsenal the other day.

I think it picks up around the quarter finals, I don’t think it’s very interesting before that unless there’s an interesting tie like a local derby or something.

[2b2bdoo]

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Irrespective of who we play this Cup doesn't just doesn't have the interest.

[Hilts]

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Id forgotten the League Cup used to be 2 legs. Remember losing 1 nil at home to the Jacks and turning it around winning 2 nil at their place. If I remember Boyle and Wheeler scoring.

[lardy]

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Is that true?

The last time fans were able to attend games, the crowds for the quarter finals of the EFL Cup were as follows:

17,342 - Middlesbrough v Burton Albion
24,644 - Leicester v Manchester City
40,432 - Chelsea v Bournemouth
59,016 - Arsenal v Tottenham

Those attendances don't suggest to me that nobody gives a shit about the League Cup any more.

It's always been a competition that has sat below the league and the FA Cup in the pecking order for most fans, but I don't think things are any different in that respect to how they were ten or twenty years ago.

Apologies Mr Rothmans, it was just a figure of speech. I didn't mean the entire competition is being held in totally empty stadiums.

[stan butler]

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So discussing attendances (which are a matter of fact) is "having a pop at the club and its fans"?

You're a very strange man, Stockholm. Distinctly odd. But credit to you, at least you've managed to post a couple of messages without mentioning Sam Hammam, AA or his message board. It makes a change.

Yes your just posting this thread as a dig even bringing Newport having a bigger crowd.
You stopped supporting the club but hang around like a bad smell of shit.
I will only mention the above when the club bashers make threads having a go at the club/owners for the very same things they kept quiet about under a previous owner.
Hypocrites..
Nevermind Sugar you have a sticky i bet you got the tissues or wank sock out

[The Lone Gunman]

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Never mind Sugar you have a sticky i bet you got the tissues or wank sock out

You are clearly a deeply disturbed individual. An extremely sad one, too. Very odd indeed. And thick as shit to boot.

I'd genuinely like to meet you, Stockholm. It would be interesting to see what someone who posts the kind of weird nonsense you post actually looks like. It would also be interesting to learn how old you are given the hopelessly juvenile nature of most of your contributions. Actual age I mean, as opposed to mental age.

[stan butler]

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You are clearly a deeply disturbed individual. An extremely sad one, too. Very odd indeed. And thick as shit to boot.

I'd genuinely like to meet you, Stockholm. It would be interesting to see what someone who posts the kind of weird nonsense you post actually looks like. It would also be interesting to learn how old you are given the hopelessly juvenile nature of most of your contributions. Actual age I mean, as opposed to mental age.

Maybe you could say that about you pal the club basher and his obsession?
Some fans are forever having a go at the current owner for things they didn't say a word about under a previous one.

You would like to meet me? Walesonline would probably turn up aswell because you like a bit of attention
Now run along joking fan