Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Like we are the only team that has been through some bad times.
Get a grip ffs.

Get behind your team and be a supporter of Cardiff City football club :ayatollah:

We can all have an opinion.

Get a grip yourself.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Depends what "dungeon days" you are talking about really. Glory in League Two tastes as good as it does in the championship.

Same goes for shit football.

Sounded like there was 2k there on Saturday. 2k miserable, grumbly feckers sounds very similar 20k miserable, grumbly feckers.

Most of them are on here

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

It most certainly is

A big crowd back then was about 6000

We would take 2 coaches away , one half full

We were getting beaten by s cunthorpe and crewe , regularly

We got beaten at home by Wrexham in front of 1900 fans

Utterly irrelevant to our current situation.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Utterly irrelevant to our current situation.

Well it's utterly relevant as the poster talked about watching ccfc in the 1990s , a time when we were complete crap most of the time

So I am sorry but you are incorrect

[The Hooded Claw]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Well it's utterly relevant as the poster talked about watching ccfc in the 1990s , a time when we were complete crap most of the time

So I am sorry but you are incorrect

You’re right, of course: crap then and crap now. Nothing has changed except the wage bill and the division we play in!

[Wash DC Blue]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

We are proper rubbish, really bad.
Absolutely Fcking terrible in fact...but the amount of Knicker Wetting is worse than the Football.

Our fans have become a bunch of “Waitrose types”
Right bunch of fcking herberts!!!

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

We are proper rubbish, really bad.
Absolutely Fcking terrible in fact...but the amount of Knicker Wetting is worse than the Football.

Our fans have become a bunch of “Waitrose types”
Right bunch of fcking herberts!!!

Sludge talks as if supporting City should be like a lifetime spent in purgatory, are you saying you agree with him?

For far too long on the pitch and for the last few months off it, City have traded very heavily on the notion that you cannot change your football club once you have one because they have been treating their customers like shit.

On the football front, we’re expected to turn up without complaint to watch football that was considered very basic in the eighties - all over the country, there are clubs that play, progressive, entertaining football, but in this part of South Wales, we’re stuck with a club that wants to be the new Wimbledon. Their style of play worked for them because they were good at it and, as a tiny club, when they came into the Football League, it worked for them to the extent that they enjoyed success they couldn’t have dreamed of if they’d played “normal” football, what’s our excuse?

Someone said that the crowd were disinterested on Saturday, I disagree, I think the club and team are lucky that they are still getting support of a quality they don’t deserve - City crowds through most of my time supporting the club would have turned by now if they had to put up with what the modern day fan does, we’re being taken for granted.

[William Treseder]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Sludge talks as if supporting City should be like a lifetime spent in purgatory, are you saying you agree with him?

For far too long on the pitch and for the last few months off it, City have traded very heavily on the notion that you cannot change your football club once you have one because they have been treating their customers like shit.

On the football front, we’re expected to turn up without complaint to watch football that was considered very basic in the eighties - all over the country, there are clubs that play, progressive, entertaining football, but in this part of South Wales, we’re stuck with a club that wants to be the new Wimbledon. Their style of play worked for them because they were good at it and, as a tiny club, when they came into the Football League, it worked for them to the extent that they enjoyed success they couldn’t have dreamed of if they’d played “normal” football, what’s our excuse?

Someone said that the crowd were disinterested on Saturday, I disagree, I think the club and team are lucky that they are still getting support of a quality they don’t deserve - City crowds through most of my time supporting the club would have turned by now if they had to put up with what the modern day fan does, we’re being taken for granted.

When you say ‘turned by now’, do you mean voting with their feet?
For as long as i can remember, i’ve never been more that 6ft away from a City fan at a game that isn’t fecking moaning about some aspect of the performance, even when we’re winning.
Maybe the standard of players has dropped off?
Last seasons championship was of a woeful standard. Norwich pissed it, but haven't won a game back in the top flight.
Far to many bang average players are getting top dollar now, and are’t worth it.
Too many negative and limited managers in the game as well.
It’s a minefield getting the balance right.
When i was a kid, West Ham played some of the most attractive football in the too flight, but got nowhere near winning it.
Kevin Keegan's Newcastle played some scintillating stuff, and got with in a whisker, but still won the middle of a doughnut.
Plenty of City fans didn’t give a hoot that we we’re boring under MM the season we went up.
Plenty of City fans moaned like **** the season we lost to Blackpool in the play off final although we played some great stuff that season.
Is there an answer to this conundrum?

[Taffy Blue in Berkshire]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

Sludge talks as if supporting City should be like a lifetime spent in purgatory, are you saying you agree with him?

For far too long on the pitch and for the last few months off it, City have traded very heavily on the notion that you cannot change your football club once you have one because they have been treating their customers like shit.

On the football front, we’re expected to turn up without complaint to watch football that was considered very basic in the eighties - all over the country, there are clubs that play, progressive, entertaining football, but in this part of South Wales, we’re stuck with a club that wants to be the new Wimbledon. Their style of play worked for them because they were good at it and, as a tiny club, when they came into the Football League, it worked for them to the extent that they enjoyed success they couldn’t have dreamed of if they’d played “normal” football, what’s our excuse?

Someone said that the crowd were disinterested on Saturday, I disagree, I think the club and team are lucky that they are still getting support of a quality they don’t deserve - City crowds through most of my time supporting the club would have turned by now if they had to put up with what the modern day fan does, we’re being taken for granted.

our first seasons as a family were in the lower leagues and sat in the family stand at np. the atmosphere was great for kids and we had players like leggy, lfw, ernie etc. there was a magic and the kids loved it which is one reason we drove down to see the match and visit family. the football wasn't amazing but we saw goals and got the feeling the players cared.

i've been watching city since the late 60's and sadly for me the buzz has gone and watching the coventry game summed it up.

i'd love to bring my grandsons down to see something worthwhile.

[blue lewj]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

I think it is caused by a lot of factors but for many football is not how it was.

The move from Ninian Park to the new ground, while needed, lost a lot of character and sanitised the whole experience for many. Some might have welcomed it but it changed the actual match experience for many including myself.

Football has changed, a lot of the aspects I enjoyed have gone out of the game. The meaty challenge, the midfield tussle where players got stuck into one another. I dislike aspects of the game now for the same reason I've never enjoyed watching friendlies. It is like a non contact sport and becoming increasingly so.

There seems a lack of connection between the fans and players that there was. The current team seems a world away from some of the players mentioned here. Your Earnie's, Ledley's and the like. Can't put my finger on why but they just seem disconnected from the fans in a way that wouldn't happen before.

The owners, while still being here, seem to be disinterested and running things on a shoe string while still expecting fans to turn up and give 100% our end just through blind loyalty.

All the above with the pandemic thrown in and people realising that there are things outside of football that they could be doing. I don't think you are the only one who feels less of a buzz about the whole thing.

If that makes me a bed wetter, a Jack or a bed wetting Jack I don't care. I'm not going to say the football is great, the owners and board are clued up or the matchday experience is top notch because it is simply not the case.

[Hilts]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

We played some of the best stuff i’ve ever seen down the City under Dave Jones, but he still got slated from his hole to his pole, because he didn’t ‘smile’ enough.

I slated Jones because I thought he was tactically poor. A constant weak central midfield 2 and a squad not fit enough who ultimately continued to fall short.

[blue lewj]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

I slated Jones because I thought he was tactically poor. A constant weak central midfield 2 and a squad not fit enough who ultimately continued to fall short.

Weak central midfield two. 😀

It would be like prime Pirlo and Zidane to have a Jones midfield in comparison to what we have now.

Still we'll stay up and that is success to some.

[Hilts]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

I think it is caused by a lot of factors but for many football is not how it was.

The move from Ninian Park to the new ground, while needed, lost a lot of character and sanitised the whole experience for many. Some might have welcomed it but it changed the actual match experience for many including myself.

Football has changed, a lot of the aspects I enjoyed have gone out of the game. The meaty challenge, the midfield tussle where players got stuck into one another. I dislike aspects of the game now for the same reason I've never enjoyed watching friendlies. It is like a non contact sport and becoming increasingly so.

There seems a lack of connection between the fans and players that there was. The current team seems a world away from some of the players mentioned here. Your Earnie's, Ledley's and the like. Can't put my finger on why but they just seem disconnected from the fans in a way that wouldn't happen before.

The owners, while still being here, seem to be disinterested and running things on a shoe string while still expecting fans to turn up and give 100% our end just through blind loyalty.

All the above with the pandemic thrown in and people realising that there are things outside of football that they could be doing. I don't think you are the only one who feels less of a buzz about the whole thing.

If that makes me a bed wetter, a Jack or a bed wetting Jack I don't care. I'm not going to say the football is great, the owners and board are clued up or the matchday experience is top notch because it is simply not the case.

The picture of our fans celebrating with our 3 young players Harris Colwill and Bagan at Forest (of course youve suggested some or all of these are simply not good enough) shows there is a connection with the fans.

Its hard to dispute the football is sh!t but you have a downer on just about everything.

[blue lewj]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

The picture of our fans celebrating with our 3 young players Harris Colwill and Bagan at Forest (of course youve suggested some or all of these are simply not good enough) shows there is a connection with the fans.

Its hard to dispute the football is sh!t but you have a downer on just about everything.

I've given my reasoning behind it.

I don't think an academy that doesn't produce players for the first team suddenly starts doing because those above demand it. That's not how these things work but you obviously disagree. Makes you wonder why we didn't do it sooner if it was that easy.

The football is bad, the owner can't be bothered to turn up and is running us on a shoe string with his people and not a football man in sight and people are now saying survival in the Championship is success a little over two seasons after being in the Premier League. I truly am gobsmacked at those that paint a rosy picture out of that but fair play to them.

[blue lewj]

Re: Where's the magic gone and will it ever come back?

I asked in another thread but people chose not to answer. What have we changed in the academy for it to now be producing such a glut of players when for years it produced nothing?

Or is the truth closer to the board saying we have to use the kids because we are not giving you the money for new signings?

If people can work out that academies do not start churning out Championship level players time and again overnight but we're forced to use them anyway then what happens is a gradual fall down the league.
Our manager building up Bournemouth as if Real Madrid had rolled into town may be managing expectations in view of this.

People can believe what they like. Nothing wrong with positivity but blind positivity and not seeing things for what they are is something different. I know what I think is going on.