Outrage as stunning My City My Shirt mural is painted over

[MacAdder]

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the Cardiff fanbase (and indeed catchment area) are a high percentage white male and middle-aged, the face that this mural was so popular and there has been outrage at it being removed says a lot about the desire to be seen as being welcoming to other groups of people in the fanbase.

could it be thought of as virtue signalling? possibly yes, but that's isn't a bad thing. inclusivity is a virtue, and the only way to achieve it is to send clear signals.

I see someone's been to church on the weekend

Good points though

[lisvaneblue]

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Do you think it's still worth that? Given the backlash to what's happened here if the mural goes up again I would have thought most brands would want to steer well clear now of painting over it again.

Maybe not. Who knows? But who will carry the can financially..probably Mischief, and it's not their fault at all if the space they renting out is giving them no return

On another tack look up analogfootball.com/ mycitymyshirt There are a set of photos there done by Yusuf Ismail that would look fantastic on an electronic billboard or a bus stop advertising board....Much more impact IMO than a mural

[Rjk]

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I see someone's been to church on the weekend

Good points though

I've not set foot In a church for years, but thanks

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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So what happens then if you work in McDonalds and you think something like this should be nipped in the bud because it's potentially damaging to the company??

How much would it cost to buy, not rent, the advertising space, because I would be willing to make a contribution towards keeping it for the public to enjoy instead of being at the whim of money men?

I would be surprised if anyone can buy (rather than lease/hire) the surface of an end of a building that has an owner.

[JamesWales]

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I would be surprised if anyone can buy (rather than lease/hire) the surface of an end of a building that has an owner.

As I said earlier, the car park it looks onto is also a development site and in time a building will occur there masking any mural, so long term it's probably not viable anyway, without buying the whole car park.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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As I said earlier, the car park it looks onto is also a development site and in time a building will occur there masking any mural, so long term it's probably not viable anyway, without buying the whole car park.

Indeed. My point was about something rather different, old fruit.

[MacAdder]

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As I said earlier, the car park it looks onto is also a development site and in time a building will occur there masking any mural, so long term it's probably not viable anyway, without buying the whole car park.

The building site across from the old white Hart on James Street has been derelict since the 70's and the site in question has been like that for donkey's years too so I wouldn't hold my breath on development any time soon.

[JamesWales]

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Indeed. My point was about something rather different, old fruit.

I know, I was just expanding upon your excellently made point!

[JamesWales]

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The building site across from the old white Hart on James Street has been derelict since the 70's and the site in question has been like that for donkey's years too so I wouldn't hold my breath on development any time soon.

True, but both of those sites are now being talked about more frequently atm..

[lisvaneblue]

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So to summarise:

McDonald's = Good

My City My Shirt = Political hot potato (scary if that's the case)

Corporate advertising space instead of permanent local art celebrating our club = Good

Posters from within the area fighting for something good in their community = Bad, pointless, a waste of time.

Posters from outside of the area deciding there's nothing to see here (ironic) = Good

Thanks, guys. Love the support.

The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

[Tito Fuente]

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The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

It appears as though you've got pretty much all of your facts/assumptions wrong:

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-06-15/my-cymru-my-shirt-the-creatives-showcasing-cardiffs-multiculturalism-during-the-euros

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I know, I was just expanding upon your excellently made point!

How terribly kind. Have a slice of fruit cake and a cup of cha, old fruit.

[MacAdder]

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True, but both of those sites are now being talked about more frequently atm..

Well one of them is ;-)

[Citizen's Nephew]

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The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

Why does any of this bother you so much? So local street artists are commissioned in other cities. I'm really unclear as to what your point is and I think you are too. Surely you can't be suggesting artists should work for free? There's hardly a comparison to a global burger chain and Unify is there? It's a f*cking wall in Butetown. Again, why does this rattle you because it clearly does? What am I missing? I'm not looking for an argument. I just don't get why you and some others are so concerned about this as you clearly don't care what's put up there. Betfair will be next. Or Paddy Power.

I've spent a decade filming and photographing and recording that entire area and The Bay. Nobody gave a sh*t about it until now. I and many others found the mural uplifting. It was unique. Shouldn't that be celebrated and preserved instead of painted over for another burger ad? Isn't it strange how different we see things? I see this as an act of wanton vandalism and you shrug it off like it's f*ck all. Yet people got so worked up about the toppling of a statue recently. Makes no sense to me.