Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
I've never seen Ukraine described as a democratic idyll.

I'm pretty sure this whole thing isn't because "everyone" thinks Ukraine is really nice.
Ukraine has an edge which would not be considered that democratic in our sense , measured against others in the region its okay, as it try's to appear more Westernised and fair as a society as it seeks closer alignment to Europe and NATO, hence the problem we see now .