Klopp vs Pep

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Messi never won’t it without Pep either.
Perhaps they both need to win it without the other to achieve a type of immortality

Messi has won the CL without Pep.

Klopp for me, he’s built football clubs. Pep has taken extremely good teams to another level. Klopp has taken 2 decent sides to the same level as Pep. And he did a cracking job at Mainz