Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
In fairness I never mentioned Farage, who thinks Brexit could still be great if it was implemented along his lines and by competent people like him. That his vision looks remarkably like the Kwarteng budget tells its own story.

I simply asked why you discarded the most up to date stats from your favourite website showing year on year GDP growth as soon as you open the page in favour of finding something on Page 29 of a pdf on a different site.

I don't agree that you can discount the last three years of data in favour of a year zero approach. Four G7 countries were impacted by Brexit in addition to Covid and Ukraine/Energy Crisis as friction was introduced in trading relationships with one of them. Only that one is yet to return to the level of output where officially leaving the EU and those rules applying and Covid kicking in started. Surely a sceptical mind like yours would question the reason why.
No you didn't, but the entire thread is based on an interview with Nige, and yet it's the guy who quite literally posting statistics from the IMF that gets called out! So interview with partisan politician=good evidence. Real IMF data = Bad data? That is certainly very modern thinking, whether it's 2022 or 2023 I don't know!

I haven't discounted anything. I'm merely saying that data from the last three years is plainly clouded by huge external factors that mean an assessment of Brexit is very difficult to make, and as such 2023 will give a clearer picture. This doesn't seem like a remotely controversial thing to say to me.

I am sorry that the full year 2022 GDP data is on page 9 of the IMF global update I posted. I will have a word with them. I mentioned the page to help people find it. Yeah, slightly hidden isn't it, and less SHOUTY than headlines.

I will very rarely refer to G7 by the way. It's a very arbitrary group and I will always try to compare to Western peers of a greater number than 7. Not that it makes it irrelevant, because it really doesn't, but it's a very small number and at any point four of them are BEST!!, WORST!!, SECOND BEST!!, BEST!! etc. If you look at the data though the huge fall was in 2020 which was generally worse for us than others. I don't know why that was. Possibly we weren't sufficiently prepared?