The Harry Maguire "joke"

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Are you telling me that a manager wouldn't feel swayed to play someone who cost a world record transfer for a defender?
Then, when he has Maguire in the camp, he finds out he's a really genuine, likeable guy, who's good on the training ground and brings something to the dressing room and follows the manager's instructions.

It's the British trait - knock someone down, then try to build them up again.

Plenty of assumptions there. I'm not telling you anything. All i can think is that Southgate obviously rates Maguire. This is international football, not club football. It's not like Southgate is being pressured by the owners to play him, or the Fans, And it's not like Southgate doesn't have more choice at his disposal. He obviously rates him.

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Plenty of assumptions there. I'm not telling you anything. All i can think is that Southgate obviously rates Maguire. This is international football, not club football. It's not like Southgate is being pressured by the owners to play him, or the Fans, And it's not like Southgate doesn't have more choice at his disposal. He obviously rates him.

I'd suggest that Southgate is being blindly loyal.

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Why are you comparing him by our standards - a lower Championship side?
Actually, I think he'd be good for us but not brilliant.

I think he would stand out head and shoulders in lower championship.

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I'd suggest that Southgate is being blindly loyal.

That is a possibility. I don't think i've ever watched Maguire play, unless i saw him for Leicester when we turned them over at their place (Camarasa Goal) But i'm thinking that he can't be as bad as so many people are saying. He does have some pedigree.

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I think he would stand out head and shoulders in lower championship.

Possibly.

[chris lee]

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I am genuinely considered about the boys mental health, it went beyond 'banter' a long time ago. Getting jeered by other teams fans at away grounds, booed by his own fans playing for his country in Wembley.

Go on social media and the amount of supposedly comedic videos and edits of him is alarming, he has become an online meme in many respects. Someone needs to either speak out or take him out of the spotlight for a little bit, because I would be livid when I see the same people who have been bullying him online and at matches, acting all surprised and shocked if the lad reaches a point when he can not take anymore.

[William Treseder]

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I agree with a comment earlier in this thread, that he’s being bullied. Both by the media and fans in general.
Nothing wrong with criticism, but sometimes it goes way too far, and it’s not good for a players confidence or mental health.
Has anyone else on here read the story of our very own Hugh Fergusson (1927 FA cup winning goal scorer) and what happened to him ?

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I am genuinely considered about the boys mental health, it went beyond 'banter' a long time ago. Getting jeered by other teams fans at away grounds, booed by his own fans playing for his country in Wembley.

Go on social media and the amount of supposedly comedic videos and edits of him is alarming, he has become an online meme in many respects. Someone needs to either speak out or take him out of the spotlight for a little bit, because I would be livid when I see the same people who have been bullying him online and at matches, acting all surprised and shocked if the lad reaches a point when he can not take anymore.

The same idiots who ridicule him online or on social media are probably the type of Twats who are all over mental health, and how it affects them, or how 'brave' they've been etc. There's some right scumbags about.

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I am genuinely considered about the boys mental health, it went beyond 'banter' a long time ago. Getting jeered by other teams fans at away grounds, booed by his own fans playing for his country in Wembley.

Go on social media and the amount of supposedly comedic videos and edits of him is alarming, he has become an online meme in many respects. Someone needs to either speak out or take him out of the spotlight for a little bit, because I would be livid when I see the same people who have been bullying him online and at matches, acting all surprised and shocked if the lad reaches a point when he can not take anymore.

100%

[jon1959]

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I am genuinely considered about the boys mental health, it went beyond 'banter' a long time ago. Getting jeered by other teams fans at away grounds, booed by his own fans playing for his country in Wembley.

Go on social media and the amount of supposedly comedic videos and edits of him is alarming, he has become an online meme in many respects. Someone needs to either speak out or take him out of the spotlight for a little bit, because I would be livid when I see the same people who have been bullying him online and at matches, acting all surprised and shocked if the lad reaches a point when he can not take anymore.

[Moodybluebird]

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Not something he can help but unfortunately he has a miserable looking face and I believe that's one of the reasons fans lack empathy for him. He's an easy target for the bully boys. If he was a cheeky chappie like Jack Grealish, I don't think he would receive half the amount of abuse he does, regardless of who he plays for and the huge amount of money he cost them.

I hope for his sake he is able to get through the torrent of abuse he receives without it impacting on his mental health. Good luck to the lad.

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Southgate shouldn’t have put him in the firing line. He clearly doesn’t deserve a call up and is going through a period of bad form,he should’ve moved this summer as he’s not good enough to play for Man United.

He’s paid hundreds of thousands a week, I’m sorry I just don’t feel sorry for him. If his mental health is that bad he should remove himself from the squad / spotlight until he’s ready to play and resurrect his career. He’s not a bad player and can comeback from this, just not this way.

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Southgate shouldn’t have put him in the firing line. He clearly doesn’t deserve a call up and is going through a period of bad form,he should’ve moved this summer as he’s not good enough to play for Man United.

He’s paid hundreds of thousands a week, I’m sorry I just don’t feel sorry for him. If his mental health is that bad he should remove himself from the squad / spotlight until he’s ready to play and resurrect his career. He’s not a bad player and can comeback from this, just not this way.

This ^^^^

Why the hell Southgate felt the need to bring him on at half time when they were 2 nil up and cruising I dont know.

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This ^^^^

Why the hell Southgate felt the need to bring him on at half time when they were 2 nil up and cruising I dont know.

If Southgate hadn't brought him on, the scoreline would have been a lot worse from Scotland's point of view.
I said in the match thread that he was a liability well before his OG.

Mafuire is too slow and cumbersome.

No sympathy for him at all.
A move from Man U with a large payout starting afresh maybe people would have a favourable view on his situ.

I quite liked Southgate initially but choosing HM in his squad is foolish and arrogant.
I have no sympathy with him either and it will be fun when it all starts to go pear shaped again.

Also, I feel a bit of a reality check is required here regarding how good England are.
I don't care who they have beaten in their recent games, it is still Scotland we are talking about who were beaten 3-1 by the people many are drooling over.

Yes, Bellingham was excellent and England have strength in depth but they have had many times before and have always, apart from with a not insignificant piece of intervention from a generous Russian linesman, somehow found a way to feck up.

Long may it continue

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If Southgate hadn't brought him on, the scoreline would have been a lot worse from Scotland's point of view.
I said in the match thread that he was a liability well before his OG.

Mafuire is too slow and cumbersome.

No sympathy for him at all.
A move from Man U with a large payout starting afresh maybe people would have a favourable view on his situ.

I quite liked Southgate initially but choosing HM in his squad is foolish and arrogant.
I have no sympathy with him either and it will be fun when it all starts to go pear shaped again.

Also, I feel a bit of a reality check is required here regarding how good England are.
I don't care who they have beaten in their recent games, it is still Scotland we are talking about who were beaten 3-1 by the people many are drooling over.

Yes, Bellingham was excellent and England have strength in depth but they have had many times before and have always, apart from with a not insignificant piece of intervention from a generous Russian linesman, somehow found a way to feck up.

Long may it continue

Wasn’t the linesman from Azerbaijan ?