FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[J R Hartley]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

As individual games yes. But in 2021/22 season they finished 8 point's above us so were undoubtedly better than us. While those games were particularly bad at the end of the day if both teams played their best then they were going to win out.

However looking at those squads today and the league table with a win taking us 13 points above them the context makes today's defeat more embarrassing. A neutral would never in a million years have picked us as the side who would be 13 points clear of the other with a win.

I know it’s raw but I have to agree. That first half was as bad as anything I’ve seen. Gutless 45 minutes and we made the worst side they’ve had for donkeys years look like Man City. Thankfully they had Cullen on the end of the chances not Haaland.

[bluebirds17]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

I agree, but maybe people shouldn't bang on about him like he's some wonder kid, plenty did initially when they should have known better, especially in terms of development with young players. Nobody actually says what he does well either.

But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

[WJ99mobile]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Bowler no fight in him

Colwill is over rated

Except for grant our forward line is shocking

I’ve been Colwills biggest critic but how the hell have you even mentioned him in todays debacle

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

They did look good. But we know from the previous 40 odd games this season they really aren't.

Yeah...it was just that they cut us apart on so many occasions with some clever through balls. Composure in midfield. Grimes was always going to get the better of our midfield without Ramsey to contend with. We were so lucky they missed the pen and we still had a vague chance of grabbing a point. But they could have stuck a cricket score on us if they'd had a better side. That's what's scary.

[Father Dougal]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

I think we all know if colwill had gone to the Swansea academy and not cardiff his career may have been very different.

Sure everyone knows what I mean. Sad to say but it's true.

[Tuerto]

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I know it’s raw but I have to agree. That first half was as bad as anything I’ve seen. Gutless 45 minutes and we made the worst side they’ve had for donkeys years look like Man City. Thankfully they had Cullen on the end of the chances not Haaland.

It was, absolutely feeble. A bulut team does not match energy, in fact Cardiff sides haven't since Warnock was here. Then we are forced in to playing a different way, pushing players on, changing players role in an attacking sense. It's no surprise we look a bit better when we have to react to a situation, i.e 1-0 down. And even then we create so little.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

I think we all know if colwill had gone to the Swansea academy and not cardiff his career may have been very different.

Sure everyone knows what I mean. Sad to say but it's true.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

And to top it off I polished off that packet of chocolate digestives and am now consumed by guilt, shame......and disappointment!

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I’ve been Colwills biggest critic but how the hell have you even mentioned him in todays debacle

Because I think he's over rated and that's not based on today's horror show

A few nice passes does not a great player make

I want to see him given lots of game time between now and the end of the season now that the pressure is off

I hope I am wrong

[WJ99mobile]

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We played to their strengths

We got pulled into areas of the pitch we didn’t want to be and didn’t have the legs to play how we ended up playing

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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We played to their strengths

We got pulled into areas of the pitch we didn’t want to be and didn’t have the legs to play how we ended up playing

Swansea don't like a physical battle

Prevent Allen type players dominating by getting stuck in

We will never out pass them

[WJ99mobile]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Because I think he's over rated and that's not based on today's horror show

A few nice passes does not a great player make

I want to see him given lots of game time between now and the end of the season now that the pressure is off

I hope I am wrong

What I’m saying why is he in the conversation

He wasn’t the reason we lost today.

I’m just scratching my head trying to understand why we’re talking about Colwill instead of who played poor and who played well. Colwill was neither.

[Tuerto]

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But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

Fine mate, no problem with any of that, although i don't rate him as highly as you do. I think that his game is flawed in terms of mobility, intelligence etc. And he needs those attributes at this level unless his creative play starts to really make the difference, which it doesn't. He's getting on for 100 appearances, yet we'll have the old guard on here making excuses. It's the manager, it's the players around him, we've heard it all before.

He does have ability, but due to the nature of his style and position he has to make the difference from time to time. He hardly ever does, and comparing him to other players in order to build a case for him in an absolute cop out, it means nothing. Colwill really needs to show up more if he's ever going to progress, That's the nature of football. He's a creative player, he's supposed to make things happen and pull the odd thing out of the bag. I wish him well, and if he's as good as plenty seem to think then we will recieve some good offers for him during the summer... As for the rest of them, absolute joke today.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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What I’m saying why is he in the conversation

He wasn’t the reason we lost today.

I’m just scratching my head trying to understand why we’re talking about Colwill instead of who played poor and who played well. Colwill was neither.

Because today is over and soon we will require him to show us what people think he's got

[ZZ Jack]

Re: FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

Two poor teams, with our lot having the luck today. After your performance last week I feared the worse.

Thanks to your successes against the teams below us, you have helped ease our situation this season, so good luck on the run in.