Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

You are always on my naughty step Bob!

No, not at all. But the BBC report was really bad. It didn't stick to the facts and dwelled on speculation. Thats not what we want from the BBC. Newsnight did a much better job.

People are allowed to say that without droll references to GB News, which I must say does seem to have replaced The Sun on the left-wingers argument bingo card in the last year or two.

Saying she should go if she's done something wrong, isn't that honourable a position really - pretty standard. It's more how the standards you hold some to seem to be less enthusiastically applied in other cases.

I'll put some milk on the step for you Sludge, Jon, AZ and Citizens Nephew at 11am.

How can you defend taxpayers money being used to defend Michelle Dolan and her fat tory gob ?

Double standards again , which apparently you hate

[JamesWales]

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How can you defend taxpayers money being used to defend Michelle Dolan and her fat tory gob ?

Double standards again , which apparently you hate

Where's the double standards? That's precedent. Civil servants, those in the public sector, politicians etc don't pay out of their own pockets for their mistakes.

As said numerous times. If a doctor makes an error, it's not him paying the compensation.

Cause it rankles, but that's the way it is and you know deep down it's the way it has to be.

You cant have politicians being personally sued all the time.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Where's the double standards? That's precedent. Civil servants, those in the public sector, politicians etc don't pay out of their own pockets for their mistakes.

As said numerous times. If a doctor makes an error, it's not him paying the compensation.

Cause it rankles, but that's the way it is and you know deep down it's the way it has to be.

You cant have politicians being personally sued all the time.

Yes we can and we should

The problem is that you flip all the time on this matter and others depending on wetger the Tories or Labour are involved

It's not really a problem it's pathetic and infantile really and as always you just won't admit you are wrong

It's your kids I feel sorry for

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

Donelan is a Christian, clearly a utterly incompetent minister who has cost the country 35 k and her husband makes millions through government procurement contracts

Nothing to see here , move along

Whilst Angela rayner is a clown and needs to be sent to the knackers yard jameswales thinks the BBC is full of lefties

Is that a snake I see slithering in the grass ?

[JamesWales]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

Yes we can and we should

The problem is that you flip all the time on this matter and others depending on wetger the Tories or Labour are involved

It's not really a problem it's pathetic and infantile really and as always you just won't admit you are wrong

It's your kids I feel sorry for

There is a lot of competition, but this is one of your maddest posts yet. Especially the frankly offensive last bit.

[JamesWales]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

Donelan is a Christian, clearly a utterly incompetent minister who has cost the country 35 k and her husband makes millions through government procurement contracts

Nothing to see here , move along

Whilst Angela rayner is a clown and needs to be sent to the knackers yard jameswales thinks the BBC is full of lefties

Is that a snake I see slithering in the grass ?

The strawman expert strikes again!

I never said the BBC is full of lefties. I said the news report the other night was shit (cos it was). That said, I don't think the BBC and the media class generally is reflective of the country, but then many people think that.

Honestly, £35k. It does matter, I entirely agree, but if you think that's a great sum of money for a ministers mistake to cost the country then you are madder than any of us thought.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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There is a lot of competition, but this is one of your maddest posts yet. Especially the frankly offensive last bit.

You are wriggling around like a worm on a fishing hook

And I definitely feel sorry for your kids if they have to listen to your nonsense

[JamesWales]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

You are wriggling around like a worm on a fishing hook

And I definitely feel sorry for your kids if they have to listen to your nonsense

My nonsense on this occasion being that I have the same position on Angele Rayner as you 😂

I suppose the consistent absence of logic on your behalf means that every so often you will inevitably end up arguing against yourself.

[the other bob wilson]

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You are always on my naughty step Bob!

No, not at all. But the BBC report was really bad. It didn't stick to the facts and dwelled on speculation. Thats not what we want from the BBC. Newsnight did a much better job.

People are allowed to say that without droll references to GB News, which I must say does seem to have replaced The Sun on the left-wingers argument bingo card in the last year or two.

Saying she should go if she's done something wrong, isn't that honourable a position really - pretty standard. It's more how the standards you hold some to seem to be less enthusiastically applied in other cases.

I'll put some milk on the step for you Sludge, Jon, AZ and Citizens Nephew at 11am.

If this BBC report was as bad as you make it out to be, wouldn’t it have become a news story in itself? The Daily Mail and GB News would have loved that.

Im not sure what else I should be saying if Angela Raynor should go if she’s found to have done something wrong isn’t good or enthusiastic enough for you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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My nonsense on this occasion being that I have the same position on Angele Rayner as you 😂

I suppose the consistent absence of logic on your behalf means that every so often you will inevitably end up arguing against yourself.

We have moved on from rayner

We are talking about tory sleaze now

Which of course you don't want to face because it makes you like like a complete fanny and hypocrite

You have an excuse for everything and an answer for nothing

You are living in your own little tory bubble

Even if there's no story to dig up about Labour or no positive to speak out about the tory filth you will find one or fabricate one

The BBC have been all over rayner like a baby rash , the guardian too

Yet your first comment on this thread is about how biased and lefty they are.....no other idiot is stupid enough to comment on it

Except you

You really are a clown at times and you are regularly a source of amusement in among the idiocy of your pro tory political bias

You just can't help yourself can you ?

Now naff off to the next 1922 meeting you plum

[JamesWales]

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If this BBC report was as bad as you make it out to be, wouldn’t it have become a news story in itself? The Daily Mail and GB News would have loved that.

Im not sure what else I should be saying if Angela Raynor should go if she’s found to have done something wrong isn’t good or enthusiastic enough for you.

All I said was it was bad. That happens. We all think it sometimes. It was something of a throwaway comment, but you then went on about GB News, which youve done again..and mentioned the Daily Mail too! You are on to win the bingo today, just need to mention blue passports and something something far-right!

You don't have to do anything, I just know you start numerous threads on Tories in such circumstances but are pretty quiet on this one, which may make people think it's less about the principle and more the party.

In fairness, the Labour party aren't in power and the Conservatives are, so I think more scrutiny of them is valid, but still..they are in power in Wales and you are quiet as a mouse on that

[JamesWales]

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We have moved on from rayner

We are talking about tory sleaze now

Which of course you don't want to face because it makes you like like a complete fanny and hypocrite

You have an excuse for everything and an answer for nothing

You are living in your own little tory bubble

Even if there's no story to dig up about Labour or no positive to speak out about the tory filth you will find one or fabricate one

The BBC have been all over rayner like a baby rash , the guardian too

Yet your first comment on this thread is about how biased and lefty they are.....no other idiot is stupid enough to comment on it

Except you

You really are a clown at times and you are regularly a source of amusement in among the idiocy of your pro tory political bias

You just can't help yourself can you ?

Now naff off to the next 1922 meeting you plum

It wasn't my first comment on the story at all.

Just read your post above and ask yourself whether you think that's a reasonable reaction? Your knee is so jerky I worry you'll do it long term damage, Sludge.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

All I said was it was bad. That happens. We all think it sometimes. It was something of a throwaway comment, but you then went on about GB News, which youve done again..and mentioned the Daily Mail too! You are on to win the bingo today, just need to mention blue passports and something something far-right!

You don't have to do anything, I just know you start numerous threads on Tories in such circumstances but are pretty quiet on this one, which may make people think it's less about the principle and more the party.

In fairness, the Labour party aren't in power and the Conservatives are, so I think more scrutiny of them is valid, but still..they are in power in Wales and you are quiet as a mouse on that

I mentioned the Daily Mail because it’s the paper that had “beergate” (where nobody did anything wrong) on its front page thirteen days out of fourteen and now it’s at it again over Angela Raynor.

I think I’ll post a link to a Guardian column in a minute just to get you going off on one - you’re in no position to talk about my bias when you make your own so obvious.

Incidentally, I’ve started a few threads on here that have been critical of the Labour Party, when are you going to the same for the Conservatives - your hypocrisy is showing Mr Wales.

I don’t say much either way about the Welsh Assembly because it’s like a little corner shop compared to a giant supermarket - it’s the Westminster Government that has all of the real power and decision making.

[JamesWales]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

I mentioned the Daily Mail because it’s the paper that had “beergate” (where nobody did anything wrong) on its front page thirteen days out of fourteen and now it’s at it again over Angela Raynor.

I think I’ll post a link to a Guardian column in a minute just to get you going off on one - you’re in no position to talk about my bias when you make your own so obvious.

Incidentally, I’ve started a few threads on here that have been critical of the Labour Party, when are you going to the same for the Conservatives - your hypocrisy is showing Mr Wales.

I don’t say much either way about the Welsh Assembly because it’s like a little corner shop compared to a giant supermarket - it’s the Westminster Government that has all of the real power and decision making.

He did nothing wrong on beergate in much the same way as Dominic Cummings did nothing wrong and he was dragged over the coals by every media organisation going.

Whats my bias then? I see a lot of wild anti-Tory posts on here that are wildly over the top and am critical of that stance. In the unlikely event someone does the same I'll try and comment on it. My position is that no one party is better than the other.

Welsh Govt isn't a corner shop. The are in control of my kids education and all of our healthcare, if nothing else!

[cyril evans awaydays]

Re: Angela Raynor In The Spotlight

All I said was it was bad. That happens. We all think it sometimes.

Do you have a link to the BBC report or at least explain what triggered you? I know you have said it was bad but we aren't all blessed with a political centre at zero degrees north south east or west. If you can show us perhaps people could either rebut or sympathise.