tyson was a great fighter in HIS time, but to compare him with ali is totally laughable.Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:05
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I don't know what giving Tyson no credit whatsoever achieves other than making you look daft for suggesting it.Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:05
tyson was a great fighter in HIS time, but to compare him with ali is totally laughable.Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:05
How is it "laughable" to compare one heavyweight boxing champion with another? Sometimes I wonder if you guys understand what you're saying before you post it.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:12
because quite simply, mr gaddaffi ali was a far superior fighter than tyson, and i saw both of them fight. of course it is just a matter of opinion, but my guess his you were probably a twinkle in your dads left bollock when ali was strutting his stuff.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:14
In their prime i'd say Ali was undoubtably the greatest all 'round boxer of the two, but as a spectacle I would rather watch Tyson, albeit for the few rounds his opponent could stay on his feet.
You do realise they recorded those fights onto videotape don't you? In fact, with the benefit of multiple angles and action replays the people at home watching probably saw more than those in the crowd did.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:19
However the fighters he beat in his prime dont compare with those Ali beat when past his prime.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:09
I do wonder if people just have a knee-jerk reaction to anything Ali related. Like some of the comments in here along the lines of "Tyson wouldn't get near Ali". What a weird thing to say, do people really believe that shite?Originally Posted by Hilts wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:30
As it seems you have by choosing Tyson.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:02
ali was a showman. an artist, he had charisma and personality, and was unbelievably quick with his feet and fists, ali in his prime would have torn tyson apart.Originally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:22
ROFLCOPTEROriginally Posted by EdinburghBlue wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:33
"Torn Tyson apart"!!! Are you for real or what?Originally Posted by chris wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:35
Don't think he was a heavyweight!Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:35
Perhaps because Ali fought some of the greatest heavyweights of all time and was the best of them. Who did Tyson beat? Frank Bruno. Big whoop. Not in the same league.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:33
Ali would have beaten him easily. Foreman and Frazier would have torn him apartOriginally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:35
ali would have eaten him for breakfast.Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:35
...which is EXACTLY what i've said over the 3 or 4 posts i've contributed to this thread, apart from the "torn Tyson apart" comment which is just silly, 'outfoxed', 'out manoeuvred', 'wore Tyson down', 'out boxed', 'out smarted', all of those things I would agree with, but not "torn Tyson apart".Originally Posted by chris wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:35
ok then mate, he would have embarassed tyson, shown him up. made him look a right ****, i think you get the picture.Originally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:44
your quoting ali doing a ropa dopa tactic on tyson, therefore you don't understand ali in his prime, in his prime he would not of needed to use said tacticOriginally Posted by chris wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:12
no ali used the rope a dope tactic on foreman, because he was a slugger same as tyson, thats why ali was the greatest, he had brains as well as the brawn. he had different methods of fighting for different fighters, tysons method was purely punching power go for the kill from round 1, if he had fought ali, tyson would have been dead on his feet by the latter stages, then ali would have just moved in and finished him off .Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:55
Pete watch Ali/Clay's fights from the 60s and indeed the Foreman and Frazier battles of the 70s, as boxing spectacles they are on a different planet to Tyson's wham bam thank you mam fights.Originally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 16:22
Not sure i'd feel the same about him if i'd shelled out a few hundred dollars to watch a 2 round bout at Caesars Palace though.Originally Posted by splott parker wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 17:31
Nail on the head Pete, you'd willingly shell out to watch Ali because an evening's entertainment would be guaranteed, good chance of a bit poetry thrown in as well. The man was pure box office. The Capitol cinema full at 2am to watch him, 2000 people, unbelievable.Originally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 17:45
He had the kind of charisma only seen from the true greats of a bygone era, Ali, Elvis Presley, James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Tony Jefferies...Originally Posted by splott parker wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 17:58
.............and Bob from Newport.Originally Posted by Under the Splott-light wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 18:05