Sorry, I can't find a statement I made that denies the existence of a man called Jesus. Would you be so kind as to copy that statement here for me?Originally Posted by Gofer Blue wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 09:21Purple Haze 2: TBG clearly defines himself as a rather sophisticated intellectual and thus is obliged to dismiss any form of religious faith (a la Richard Dawkins).Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 22:55Is that meant to pass as mature debate? Exchanging personal insults is rather juvenile and disingenuous, don't you think?Originally Posted by Gofer Blue wrote on Wed, 31 December 2014 22:00It's not that difficult to discuss matters rationally.Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Tue, 30 December 2014 21:14As you are well aware we have had several debates in the past on this subject and we both understand each other's point of view so I'm sorry but I'm not going to go over old ground yet again. BTW I don't regard my comment as an insult but probably rather close to the truth actually judging by your response! Feel free to call me a gullible inadequate who is scared of death as most posters on here have done from time to time.Originally Posted by Gofer Blue wrote on Tue, 30 December 2014 21:06Oh deary, deary me. More of the same, it seems. Please get back to me when you are prepared to have a sensible debate without ad hominem and over-emotive comments. Surely you are better than this and able to debate the actual contents of a post.Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Tue, 30 December 2014 19:38What is there to debate about with you in regard to this post? You don't believe there was a person called Jesus Christ so therefore Christmas means nothing to you other than that described by the OP, Steve the Tea. What should be a simple celebration to remember the greatest gift (free too) ever given has been hijacked by grateful commercial enterprises who in turn have hoodwinked millions of people into believing that unless they take part in the absurd "spending fest" (see below) they will somehow be letting their children/spouses/families down if they do not buy the latest "must have" presents.Originally Posted by Gofer Blue wrote on Tue, 30 December 2014 19:29From the you.gov website: "UK households are projected to spend £792m (3.46%) less on Christmas this year than they did in 2011, but are still expected to spend approximately £22bn on gifts, cards and decorations, and food and drink this holiday season".