IDS at it again!

[Observer]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/13/david-camero n-open-to-workers-saving-up-fund-own-sick-pay

[Observer]

Sudden IDS brainwave "invents" National Insurance

[Kiffa]

Well why the **** not he's already rebranded the minimum wage.

Makes you wonder what's next coughNHScough

[Vimana.]

Well why the **** not he's already rebranded the minimum wage.

It may be 'cough up the cash for that cough Kiffa, or fockoff'

[Kiffa]

The basic reasoning for this is that they can't raise NI, as they said they wouldn't, so will just invent another tax instead.

Slimy lying c**ts.

Great Britain you did this.

[Observer]

I hope he comes up with an idea that gets rid of a central government

[Kiffa]

Children to pay for own free childcare by working afternoons making clothes.

Getting the youth ready for work early.

Huzzah c

[Vimana.]

The basic reasoning for this is that they can't raise NI, as they said they wouldn't, so will just invent another tax instead.

"Hollow tax promises undermine the state's ability to function and leave Britain few desirable options if the world does not turn out as we all hope. Politicians: please stop. "

[Kiffa]

Be nice to see Feedy and the Croes-master's take on the county being swindled again.

[Observer]

Be nice to see Feedy and the Croes-master's take on the county being swindled again.

They are not stupid enough to touch this one

[Feedback]

Very droll Gluey. A couple of points:

1. This is not government policy

2. Does it say anywhere that this will replace state benefits or is this more a top up model akin to private pensions topping up the state pension?

3. If it was government policy I would oppose it.

Hope this helps

[Kiffa]

Very droll Gluey. A couple of points:

I'm glad you disagree with it wholeheartedly feedy

[Feedback]

I was using top up and pensions as an example. If it's a top up plan like pensions but existing benefits are untouched then I have no complaints, if it's a case of only getting benefits from private companies them I'm wholeheartedly againSt it.

[Observer]

Very droll Gluey. A couple of points:

Yes, it was mentioned a few times in that article, they seemed keen to emphasise the fact that it is not government policy ... yet!

[Kiffa]

I was using top up and pensions as an example. If it's a top up plan like pensions but existing benefits are untouched then I have no complaints, if it's a case of only getting benefits from private companies them I'm wholeheartedly againSt it.

I highly doubt this is their plan though

[Observer]

I was using top up and pensions as an example. If it's a top up plan like pensions but existing benefits are untouched then I have no complaints, if it's a case of only getting benefits from private companies them I'm wholeheartedly againSt it.

You mean statutory sick pay remains the same, but you top up so that when you are sick, then you have that bit extra?

It's not their plan .. and it's not even his idea

[Observer]

This is what you have to look forward too .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Provident_Fund

[Observer]

Seems the general idea has been floating around for 20 odd years .. http://www.adamsmith.org/wp-content/uploads/fortune-account. pdf