Petition calls for game against Israelis to be cancelled

[alfie sherwood]

Maybe the FAW should call off the game against Israel next season and forfeit the points we got against them?

Just saying but what's the difference if we go ahead with this?

The Israeli international team and it's club sides are not currently barred from European/International competition and as Wales were drawn against them, we have little choice to play them or lose the points. Rock and a hard place etc.

Unless or until Israel and Isareli club sides are suspended from competing on the world stage, it would be a simple and positive gesture on behalf of Cardiff City to withdraw from a (meaningless) friendly. 'Friendlies' such as this indirectly help to normalise and legitimise the behaviour of its government, in my opinion.

I do appreciate though that the whole sport/politics thing is a complex argument riven with contradictions

So what you're in fact saying is when there's Euro qualification at stake, then your principles aren't so strong but not so for a "meaningless friendly". Laughable really.

Based on just about anything you've ever written on here, I never had you down as a man of principle, clearly I misjudged you. All hail the mighty heath

[Heathccfc]

Maybe the FAW should call off the game against Israel next season and forfeit the points we got against them?

Just saying but what's the difference if we go ahead with this?

The Israeli international team and it's club sides are not currently barred from European/International competition and as Wales were drawn against them, we have little choice to play them or lose the points. Rock and a hard place etc.

Unless or until Israel and Isareli club sides are suspended from competing on the world stage, it would be a simple and positive gesture on behalf of Cardiff City to withdraw from a (meaningless) friendly. 'Friendlies' such as this indirectly help to normalise and legitimise the behaviour of its government, in my opinion.

I do appreciate though that the whole sport/politics thing is a complex argument riven with contradictions

So what you're in fact saying is when there's Euro qualification at stake, then your principles aren't so strong but not so for a "meaningless friendly". Laughable really.

Kiryat Shmona is extremely close the the Lebanon, Syria borders. The people there know a thing or two about rocket attacks from Hezbollah.

You seem a little Rattled?.

[alfie sherwood]

Maybe the FAW should call off the game against Israel next season and forfeit the points we got against them?

Just saying but what's the difference if we go ahead with this?

The Israeli international team and it's club sides are not currently barred from European/International competition and as Wales were drawn against them, we have little choice to play them or lose the points. Rock and a hard place etc.

Unless or until Israel and Isareli club sides are suspended from competing on the world stage, it would be a simple and positive gesture on behalf of Cardiff City to withdraw from a (meaningless) friendly. 'Friendlies' such as this indirectly help to normalise and legitimise the behaviour of its government, in my opinion.

I do appreciate though that the whole sport/politics thing is a complex argument riven with contradictions

So what you're in fact saying is when there's Euro qualification at stake, then your principles aren't so strong but not so for a "meaningless friendly". Laughable really.

Kiryat Shmona is extremely close the the Lebanon, Syria borders. The people there know a thing or two about rocket attacks from Hezbollah.

Ironically, the club in question has, historically, one of the most diverse playing squads in the top Israeli leagues regularly containing numerous Israeli Arabs, Ahmed Abed is a prime example.

Get you, girlfriend

[Mrs Steve R]

had been deleting posts again

Wrong again.

source?

There isn't one, it was an observation.

[kevinNugentsHead]

The Israeli people we met in tel Aviv were amazing. Friendly, welcoming, and absolutely drop dead beautiful in the case of lots of the women . I'm not a big fan of this petition. I realise that the vast majority of people signing this will be people who don't like israel's military actions. But I also firmly believe that the wider BDS movement is nothing but a front for a quite nasty bunch of people who'd like to see israeli's/Jews wiped off the map. Really quite disappointed to see this if I'm honest.

[BlueWales]

Fuss about ferk all in the real world.

Still if this sort of nonsense is what gets your rocks off ......then go get a life.

[14TheFuture]

Sanctimonious. One word that sums petitions of this ilk and people who believe in its actions.

We have arranged to play a game of football. The supporters of Ironi are football fans just like us. Why should government actions prevent unaffiliated civilians from enjoying a game of footie?

People who make such a trivial effort at "making a difference in the world" need to make better use of themselves.

[goslow]

Maybe the FAW should call off the game against Israel next season and forfeit the points we got against them?

Just saying but what's the difference if we go ahead with this?

The Israeli international team and it's club sides are not currently barred from European/International competition and as Wales were drawn against them, we have little choice to play them or lose the points. Rock and a hard place etc.

Unless or until Israel and Isareli club sides are suspended from competing on the world stage, it would be a simple and positive gesture on behalf of Cardiff City to withdraw from a (meaningless) friendly. 'Friendlies' such as this indirectly help to normalise and legitimise the behaviour of its government, in my opinion.

I do appreciate though that the whole sport/politics thing is a complex argument riven with contradictions

What controversy?

[CCFC_Urawa_Reds]

This makes me ashamed to be a Cardiff City fan if this petition is reflective of our support base.

1. Sport and politics do not mix. Ultra loony left liberal statements should have no influence in a sports arena.
2. Will we be boycotting any Muslim players or games against Muslim teams due to the huge number of terrorist attacks carried out by a rising radical islam?
3. The strife between Israel and terrorist group Hamas is not our business !

Shame on whoever started this petition and those who signed this.

This is a f**king football game !

/. Israel is not in Europe and so should not be competing in the European championships.

2. As Israel have been allowed into our European Championships you would think they'd behave with a little more decorum than bombing innocent kids playing on a beach and turning Gaza into the biggest concentration camp since World War Two.

This makes me ashamed to be a Cardiff City fan if this petition is reflective of our support base.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HCmvDwDocrw

[alfie sherwood]

In the interests of balance there's also a petition to make sure the game goes ahead... https://www.change.org/p/cardiff-city-football-club-ignore-c alls-to-cancel-a-friendly-football-match-versus-ironi-kiryat -shemona-fc-do-not-let-sport-become-politicised?just_created =true

[BlueWales]

/. Israel is not in Europe and so should not be competing in the European championships.

Try reading some history before talking shyte.

[jon1959]

In the interests of balance there's also a petition to make sure the game goes ahead... https://www.change.org/p/cardiff-city-football-club-ignore-c alls-to-cancel-a-friendly-football-match-versus-ironi-kiryat -shemona-fc-do-not-let-sport-become-politicised?just_created =true

It is another own goal though, and does nothing to improve the reputation of the club.

[alfie sherwood]

/. Israel is not in Europe and so should not be competing in the European championships.

2. As Israel have been allowed into our European Championships you would think they'd behave with a little more decorum than bombing innocent kids playing on a beach and turning Gaza into the biggest concentration camp since World War Two.

It's totally understandable that the Jewish people should seek a haven free from persecution but ffs let's not turn a blind eye to the wicked brutality they dish out on an ongoing basis in order to maintain it.

[alfie sherwood]

In the interests of balance there's also a petition to make sure the game goes ahead... https://www.change.org/p/cardiff-city-football-club-ignore-c alls-to-cancel-a-friendly-football-match-versus-ironi-kiryat -shemona-fc-do-not-let-sport-become-politicised?just_created =true

I assume the North West Friends of Israel are an organisation that campaigns and lobbies for and on behalf of the State of Israel - not its Football Association or individual clubs.

Superb post

[surge]

1. Sport and politics have always mixed - whether they should or should not.

2. Israel recently voted in a right wing government which has set back the peace talks (like they needed setting back) so perhaps these sorts of boycotts do have a place.

3. The strife between the terrorist government leading Israel and the terrorist government leading Palestine has our finger prints on (long live the empire) but also shows zionist vote seeking American president's finger prints. For too long our countries have taken Israeli money to turn a blind eye and for too long their governments have been too volatile to even consider trying to sort it out.

4. I'm still not sure we should be pushing for a boycott of a club we know nothing about apart from being from Israel. They could proudly campaign for peace for all we know...

[Tandy]

In the interests of balance there's also a petition to make sure the game goes ahead... https://www.change.org/p/cardiff-city-football-club-ignore-c alls-to-cancel-a-friendly-football-match-versus-ironi-kiryat -shemona-fc-do-not-let-sport-become-politicised?just_created =true

Sport and politics are always connected - usually in the form of governments or government agencies suppressing people's free enjoyment of sport -

Any examples?

[Tuerto]

This makes me ashamed to be a Cardiff City fan if this petition is reflective of our support base.

'Ultra loony left Liberal' or 'Muslim teams' Absolute comedy gold.

[jon1959]

In the interests of balance there's also a petition to make sure the game goes ahead... https://www.change.org/p/cardiff-city-football-club-ignore-c alls-to-cancel-a-friendly-football-match-versus-ironi-kiryat -shemona-fc-do-not-let-sport-become-politicised?just_created =true

Sport and politics are always connected - usually in the form of governments or government agencies suppressing people's free enjoyment of sport -

Any examples?

The daily impact of politics on sport are endless. Laws, regulations (from health and safety to gender mixing in teams), funding, infrastructure, the cultural norms promoted by governments/parties. the influence or direction of the media, all the way through to general economic policy and whether - all other factors aside - Joe or Jane Public can afford to participate in sports at a level beyond 'jumpers for goalposts in the back alley'.

[CCFC_Urawa_Reds]

Ironically, radical Islam ideology (Western intelligence services indicate that up to 25% of the Muslim population holds radical views), is, in this day and age, the most fascist. A complete intolerance for other lifestyles/way of life.

Let us not forget that Palestinians have been carrying out suicide bomb attacks against the Israeli public for decades (cafes, buses, primary schools). In the latest conflict Israel was shelled approximately 200 (TWO HUNDRED) times before it retaliated. When Israel fights back, Hamas are quick to cry foul, using human shields and media propaganda to further their cause/gain sympathy.

In addition, large/any swathes of the Israeli population do not hate us, do not want to attack us, impose their law upon us, behead us, tell us what to wear, watch, do etc or refuse to integrate into a host society.

[Feedback]

I assume all this animosity is based on the 'fact' that the conflict in Palestine is all one way traffic.

[Steve the Tea]

Bonkers!

Bet you don't have the guts to demand the boycott of all things Israel.


https://m.facebook.com/notes/jesus-love-is-so-great/so-you-w ant-to-boycott-israel-heres-a-list-of-products-and-services- you-need-to-/820698877940154

[alfie sherwood]

I assume all this animosity is based on the 'fact' that the conflict in Palestine is all one way traffic.

Just plenty of suggestions that Israel's current hard right government is badly letting down its own people in terms of international opinion through its totally disproportionate retaliation to, on the whole, feebly ineffective Palestinian rocket attacks. Retaliation that led to the death of literally hundreds of children in the Gaza Strip last year.

[Igovernor]

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