That's why you had 10,000 empty seats last Saturday.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:59
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3,000 leeds going to donny tomorrow night in cup, on telly once again, watch it, you might learn a thing or two, about proper support.Originally Posted by Tandy wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:54
That's why you had 10,000 empty seats last Saturday.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:59
I agree Jim but the decreasing numbers had something to do with that as Vincent Tan had said pre season we would never return to blue under him.Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:43
The penny hasn't dropped with you butt has it. The figures were quoted on paid customers, if s/t holders were not turning up it didn't mean they hadn't paid did it?Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:50
if you pay to watch a match, and then cant be arsed to turn up, you arent much of a supporter are you.Originally Posted by old blue wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 15:11
Definitely Chris!Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:50
What if I bought you a pie you miserable sodOriginally Posted by The Lone Gunman wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:46
By the way, we all know how big a club Leeds are. Why don't you go on the Wednesday messageboard? Similar sized club and support.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 14:59
Football supporters are fickle mate whoever you support, otherwise you would be getting 40000 every week at Leeds wouldn't you?Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 15:18
This thread is so last week
the fact that cardiff had 5,6,7,000 fans or season ticket holders that had already paid and then decided not to turn up beggars belief. they is a difference between been a fairweather fan and going occasionally, and fans shelling hundreds of pounds out and then deciding they were not going anymore because they had been relegated, or that the colour of their shirts were the wrong colour. you dont shell money out for season tickets until you know whether you are going or not.Originally Posted by old blue wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 16:00
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/12/manchester-u nited-attendances-police-figuresOriginally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 16:11
the difference at cardiff last season was alarming, many of your own fans knew last season that the official attendances given, was nothing like the actual attendances inside the ground.Originally Posted by Tandy wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 16:35
No one is denying that the crowds were overestimated but for paying customers they were probably right.Get it? Now I know we probably had s/t holders purely for the fact they wanted to watch premiership football, when that wasn't on offer they never came. Also I knew guys that never turned up as they were fed up with what was on offer and what was happening with the club. Think we are all realistic about that.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 16:49
all i am saying is, that attendance figures in my opinion should be based on HOW MANY ACTUALLY ATTEND, AND NOT ON HOW MANY TICKETS HAVE BEEN PAID FOR, regardless of whether they turn up or not.Originally Posted by old blue wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 17:01
defo chris imho
Interestingly, Leeds hold the record for the fastest fan exodus of any club when they recorded league attendances of 56796 and 9006 in the same season!
we have had an exodus a few times baloo, but at least we dont count invisible fans who are not there.Originally Posted by Baloo wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 17:49
Yes you do.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:03
hence the reason you had mickey mouse figures for your attendances last season.Originally Posted by Tandy wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:21
Can you prove that?Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:33
they certainly as never been a case where a discrepancy of of 6-7,000 as ever happened. i have been to leeds games where 6-7,000 have been outside trying to get inside the ground. and that was back in the seventies. when leeds were the best side in this country.Originally Posted by Tandy wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:36
So by your own admission the attendance figures given out by LUFC is not always truthful.Originally Posted by chris wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:43
cardiff added supporters on to their attendances last season, because they had paid for tickets but did not turn up, which is ridiculous in my opinion.Originally Posted by Tandy wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 18:54