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Talk about selective responding.
Firstly - I admitted that, although they were the figures from YouGov, Yougov were hardly reliable during the referendum nor the general election.
Secondly - I did NOT say that pensioners were thoughtless retiring. What I am saying is that the UK population is ageing and, with a shortage of young "indigenous" people to sustain the taxes to pay the pensions you have to look for immigration to fill the gap.
Again, I wasn't complaining about pensioners. I was making the point that the UK population is getting older and so the main way to sustain their well-earned pensions is through immigration. The other way to look after our pensioners needs is to raise NI contributions and/or taxes.
A shame that someone who, rightly, defends his religion on here against mean spirited people who deal in vague and sweeping generalisations should resort to using such soundbite and cliche filled stuff, which only makes him equally guilty when it comes to taking ill informed swipes at another section of society.
I may not have been the most enthusiastic of remain voters, but remain voter I was and I'm now of an age where I can use my senior citizens bus pass if I want to. More importantly, while I think we should have realised by now that political opinion polling should be treated with a fair degree of caution, I find the figures in that poll quite reassuring because remain voters in my age group (50-64) were only four per cent down on the national figure, while the 39% of over 65s who voted remain is two points higher than the number in all age groups which voted for the party whose leader tried to sort out it's mess over Europe by giving us the referendum in the first place in the last general election - in both cases, the remain votes among 50 pluses is higher than I would have predicted it to be beforehand.
Very good opening post in this thread by the way.
Last edited by the other bob wilson; 25-06-16 at 10:35.
How remiss of me
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35594650
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.a...arket-overview
Quite obviously there are more foreign-born people employed in the UK than there are unemployed people in the UK.
Yes I did suggest it, I just had a feeling it wouldn't be as easy as is sounded, as soon as I heard Cameron say in his speech that we need the full engagement of the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Ireland governments to negotiate our exit alarm bells went off Even though the EU said they want to get us out now asap I think that was just to put people on edge and make them think this really is going to happen, they could drag this out for a long time and create many problems along the way that prove to some people that leaving is not a good idea, I also think they could change the goal posts when it comes to the votes too because people are not happy with the result being so close, a few other things came to mind when I was watching the news last night but I forget what they were now, of course I don't know for sure what will happen but my guess is there will be plenty of fun and games before any exit takes place.
One for each topic do you think Boris will end up having a change of heart?
Why does everything always have to have a hidden meaning, some kind of fog? Anyone in his position would have said the same. You don't want to be in, then hurry up so everyone left behind can start to sort themselves out. There's going to be huge upheaval, he wants to minimise it.