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Have i got this drastically wrong?
Turkey put a stop to the migrants coming across from Bodrum - i say Bodrum but that area in general is closest to Kos so....
Turkey put a stop to the migrant flow on the condition that the EU lifted visa requirements completely for Turkish passport holders, essentially allowing them into the free-access agreement despite not being in the EU. Turkey have not seen this condition met and are now threatening to allow the migrants to continue unchecked - in many cases sending them to their deaths at sea - unless this visa restriction is lifted.
So, the EU, in trying to stop thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants enter its borders, is giving open access to a country with 80 million people instead?
BREXIT - it makes more sense by the day. Jesus what a bunch of idiots.
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fair one, i was remiss here.
Just because you can visit a country without a visa doesn't mean you can move there. It just means instead of needing your passport and a piece of paper you just need your passport.
Lifting visa requirements is not open access for living at all.
You could do that when there's visa restrictions so what difference would it make?
It doesn't make it any less easier to go missing though or to take up residence which is what your original point was.
Also could you tell me what extra information you put on a visa that isn't on the chip in your passport?
gluey having a 'mare in the full gaze of the main board
Having just applied for a visa, they wanted current bank statements, reason for visit, address where I will be staying, details of return flights and a letter from my employer stating that I would be returning to my job. This seems to be the standard procedure, with people coming in the opposite probably subject to even more scrutiny.
Where are you going? You don't need bank statements and an employee letter for a holiday visa?
I started working abroad lasts month actually, although within the EU and even though it's quite a lot of paperwork even when it's through a company who already employ you.
Just to add I'm completely against Turkey being allowed in the EU with their human rights record and current government.
I don't think allowing travel via a visa waiver as we have via the U.S is a gateway to this at all and also don't think it encourages illegal working any more than travelling on a visa does.
It all depends which country people are travelling to, and those coming in the opposite direction also have the added pleasure of personal interviews to look forward to.
Generally speaking Brits have visa free travel in most countries as it's a money spinner for the host nation, but that is not always reciprocated.
Last edited by Wales-Bales; 02-08-16 at 18:04.
Don't forget the economic discrepancies that exist between developed countries and the rest of the world. In your example you have chosen two like-for-like countries, and they also have favourable reciprocal employment agreements in place, which more or less eliminates the need to work illegally.