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All through this trial, i have been waiting for a huge bombshell from the new evidence, but i haven't heard it so far.
I can see a story that the girl fabricated the story after being intoxicated, and i can see the story that Ched took advantage of a girl in no fit state to consent.
Its not a pretty picture whatever way you look at it.
do they not do " courts " on a Friday ? ? ?
its adjourned till monday now
It's quite simple and involves laws that are supposed to govern us and keep us safe. Vile? Using women? Disrespecting his fiancé? Yes, but he has accepted all this and apologised. Young men do grow up you know. The idea is we learn from mistakes.
This man has been to prison under very very uncertain circumstances. He has never at any stage admitted guilt and in the process has undergone further scrutiny and ridicule as well as venom, from chaps like you.
Why? Why go through it? Why not let it die down and try to rebuild his life? If he is right about all this and acquitted I hope you're man enough to admit on here that, in reality, he is actually a bloody brave bloke who stood his ground under the worst circumstances.
Reasonable doubt? That's all it needed. Nobody can look at all the 'facts' here and say there is any certainty. Reasonable doubt makes him innocent.
I'm supporting him because I think he has been guilty of a miscarriage of justice.
Do you know that he could not have been charged if he had simply said "no comment"?
One key issue is that the judge did not direct the jury regarding 'consent when intoxicated'. It used to be that a woman could not give consent if drunk ergo if she says she was raped, she was because even saying she wants it couldn't be classed as consent.
A case a few years changed that, and precedent exists.
The judge should have directed the jury but when questioned he said he didn't think it 'relevant'. That's beyond belief when we consider that alcohol had everything to do with it.
So legally, even if the jury were aware of this precedant they couldn't consider it. That's a biggie.
The thing I find a bit odd is that her drunkenness is someone elses responsibility.
What happens if they both wake up in the morning and say they can't remember a thing? Could they both be classed as guilty of a sex crime?
Or if a woman remembered and the bloke didn't, could she get done and him prosecute?
1. Apologies
2. He went in and gave a statement. The woman's side is that she remembers absolutely nothing. If Evans had said nothing there would have been no evidence for the CPS to use. He went in to clear things up and North Wales Police did him in the arse.
I'm all for rapists getting their just desserts but this case is more flawed than Trollope managerial CV
Are you a lawyer or a judge?
I'm not hence getting a lot of it wrong. He just seemed quite confident and clued up with what he was saying so I was just wondering if he was.
I'm still shocked so many people back him after what's been said over the last few days but I suppose I can see why people could say it wasn't rape even if ched comes across very poorly.