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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Some Republicans opposed him, which I addressed above, but also all of the Democrats went against him, so they obviously still believe in Obamacare, or they just want him out of office along with those forementioned Republicans.
    Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
    Not really surprising.

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    Until Obamacare came into effect being forced into purchasing healthcare insurance was an alien concept for Americans. The new paradigm is they still must be required to have insurance but with different rules. Originally the Republicans wanted to repeal Obamacare, then they switched to reform or replace so that big pharma and insurance companies would remain quids in whilst denying the right of anyone not to have insurance for their own health without being penalised in the form of fines. The US used to be all about individualism but has gradually become more collectivist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It doesn't matter what the Democrats think, the Republicans control everything. You've made an impressive list of excuses and Trump won't be taking the blame (he's already started shoving Ryan under the bus) but this goes down as another Trump defeat.
    It's hard to explain to those who view the MSM as some kind of bible, so you will just have to wait for the story to unfold in it's own good time. It's well known what role Ryan is playing and who he answers to. Let's just say it's all very murky

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Being the opposing party the role of the Democrats is to get him out of office.
    Not really surprising.
    Legally I hope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's hard to explain to those who view the MSM as some kind of bible, so you will just have to wait for the story to unfold in it's own good time. It's well known what role Ryan is playing and who he answers to. Let's just say it's all very murky
    Ah, that textbook Gluey 'nothing' answer. Never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ah, that textbook Gluey 'nothing' answer. Never change
    Just keep your eyes on the trafficking investigation, 7th Floor/State Department, Congress hacking, etc. It should satisfy your curiosity eventually, if there aren't any JFK moments of course

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    The plot thickens .. breaking news

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/27/po...-donald-trump/

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    Schumer urges removal of House intel panel chair Nunes

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/schum...air-nunes.html

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    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?
    He brought his own swamp with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vimana. View Post
    Well if this stuff is going to happen, they had better step it up.

    The Donald looks very dour of late.
    Stories (relating to Flynn) beginning to surface regards possible impeachment - or stepping down 'in light' of supposed revelations that may arise.
    All if's and but's of course.

    Which might occur first?
    Trump draining the swamp, or Trump getting swamped?
    He may not survive unless he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. Nobody can take on the establishment and win, they own the rules of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    He may not survive unless he still has a few tricks up his sleeve. Nobody can take on the establishment and win, they own the rules of the game.
    I hope none of that relates to increasingly yeee-haaw sabre rattling at N Korea (to 'win big')?

    He is coming across as beleaguered and history tells us that is what beleaguered Leaders seem to like to do.

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    I hope none of that relates to increasingly yeee-haaw sabre rattling at N Korea (to 'win big')?

    He is coming across as beleaguered and history tells us that is what beleaguered Leaders seem to like to do.
    The latest ...

    Sources: Trump, associates surveilled for up to year

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5383235023001/
    Last edited by Wales-Bales; 03-04-17 at 18:49.

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    Sources tell Fox: Rice requested to unmask Trump associates

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5383601455001/

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    Iran stopped selling its oil for US dollars on March 21. That propelled them to the top of the to-be-smashed list. North Korea is patently a vassal Chinese state. China would never allow that buffer to be removed from their border.

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    It's all over for Trump!

    'Jean-Michel Jarre to play anti-Donald Trump Dead Sea concert'

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ad-sea-concert

    Go on Jean-Michel. Kick the the deluded, egocentric, liar when he's down. Not gurning now, eh Donald?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    It's all over for Trump!

    'Jean-Michel Jarre to play anti-Donald Trump Dead Sea concert'

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ad-sea-concert

    Go on Jean-Michel. Kick the the deluded, egocentric, liar when he's down. Not gurning now, eh Donald?
    Giving Trump the Oxygene of publicity.

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    Hopefully former president Obama will have a good explanation for all of this ...


    Former US Attorney: Susan Rice Ordered Spy Agencies To Produce ‘Detailed Spreadsheets’ Involving Trump

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    CNN calling it "Fake News"



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    And Rice "know's nothing!"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    And Rice "know's nothing!"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWFtwMvwEkc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    No mention of this in the MSM or on the BBC, so either they are all in on it or there really isn't anything happening? Either way, somebody is lying big time, and there are going to be some big losers here. Who's your money on? This could bury Trump or open Obama/Clinton to further investigations. Interesting days ahead ...

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    Today Trump's chances of reforming tax became a dead duck. Last week it was Obamacare. That means his two domestic policy changes that he promised his electorate would be enacted are dead.

    Then there's these comments he made today about Syria: “I do change. I am flexible. I am proud of that flexibility. I will tell you that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me. Big impact. It was a horrible, horrible thing. I've been watching it and seeing it, and it does not get any worse than that. And it is very, very possible, and I will tell you it is already happened, that my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”

    Yesterday in Syria saw another alleged chemical attack on civilians by Assad's forces. There was another similar incident in 2013 (since proved to be a hoax) when Obama seemed determined to invade that country. That changed when Parliament voted down joining in.

    Below is a video supposedly showing the aftermath of the incident. TV news has broadcast edited parts of it but omitted what may be dead bodies lying on the ground. It looks staged and wholly fake to me. And I find it highly suspicious that anyone can view it without any age verification. Note the white helmets are in attendance and the bloke at 1.26 whose career as a crisis actor might be shortlived.


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    It's nice to see the white helmets are back with new facilities!

    Trump will never succeed, unless he clears out the crooks on both sides of the house who are being blackmailed by their puppetmasters. Who knows what crap he is being fed by his "advisors" on a daily basis?

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    I still can't believe the neocons would prefer WWWIII to losing face in Syria. Still, with a cupboard full of delicious Pot Noodles I'm fully prepared for that eventuality.

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