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My Spanish dentist is a Madridista (or as I call him, a Madridentista) and he reckons that the ream is better without Bale.
As he is usually poking a drill or a sharp instrument in my mouth when we meet I tend not to disagree with him too strongly.
He's top of the great British players, however he is not technically gifted as the top Europeans,its just the way we produce em
From what Zidane said a few weeks ago, if Bale is fully fit he will start. Zidane is a big fan of Bale and constantly full of praise for him. More so, Juventus' defence is so good that they can handle a player like Isco, as good as he is he's very slow. What most of the Juve defenders miss is pace, if Real can get Bale running at the CB's and behind the full backs they won't cope with him if he's on form and we know he always finds form for these big games.
Guaranteed starter for me, if fit enough.