Originally Posted by
Mambo
I dont think it was the case of get the foreigners out - but it was the case that (I believe) most people didnt want to see the creation of a city the size of Cardiff being created each year - based on net immigration circa 300,000 people.
Ask people oop North Bob and you'd get a different reaction, anyone who works in fishing, steal, etc would tell you they want out regardless, then you have a lot of others who dont fancy taking orders from Brussels - even though thats not entirely accurate.
IF - the EU had listened, to the issues and concerns put forward by Cameron when he went and spoke to them, then all of this could have been avoided. They should have listened and rolled back on the Maastright treaty. Which incidentally was signed off by John Major!!.
None of us know - we only have our own opinions. I personally believe people want to trade with other EU countries freely, as long as we all adhere to the same set of rules. Countries should be able to control who comes in or out via a working visa, or whether you have the finances to sustain yourself. Trade deals can be done by the EU as a whole, but if a country wants to import Korean cars etc - in return for a country exporting potatoes - then they should.
It doesnt need an EU parliament to have a European Space Agency, or Medicines Directive etc , it just needs the will of the countries wanting to get involved to make it happen.
The EU commision - I havent got a clue how you could make it electable - there are too many vested interests. Same goes for the EU parliament - how is it possible to enact one law for all the EU countries. All it is good for is maybe agreeing on a std corporation tax rate, std vat rate etc - but this is impossible as their many varied economies in the EU - one size does not fit all.
The issue most people have is that we dont need more member states joining that take more than they give, we dont an EU defence force, we dont want TTIP etc etc - The EU as a body wants a 1 nation state for Europe - which is why it has the policies it has. No one wants that though apart from the 5 presidents of EU , Juncker, Tsuk, Shultz etc.
The solution is a square peg - but we only have round holes, it will never work out as it is - in my opinion - I should add. My opinion is no more valid than anyone elses - and vice verse.