Feck the attendances.
If you don`t want to go don`t go but stop whining about it ffs.
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Feck the attendances.
If you don`t want to go don`t go but stop whining about it ffs.
There are people who don't go anymore because of the rebrand.
There are people who care less since the rebrand.
These are facts. The only thing that's up debate is how many.
I`m just wondering if the 8,631 that turned up at reading was affected by the rebrand.
I`m not surprised the when we sold Tosack or the when we moved across Sloper Road or The rebrand objectors are not turning up it`s the sniff of a bandwagon or a glint of glory boys that are baffling me.
I added to the thread to point out its not a new thing for weekday games.
I agree, many post negatively when things are going well. There's a thread how Warnock was tactically wrong, thats hilarious.. Five wins on the trot and still some want to criticise.
Also, people talk about being entertained. What utter bollox, we want to win, dont even pretend entertainment comes first.
As you know only too well, crowds have been relatively poor all season, particularly given the team's position in the league table. There have been loads and loads of threads about the subject. There seems to be at least one every time I log on, which admittedly is pretty rare these days. I've only ever 'popped up' on one or two such threads.
As regards being 'bothered' about City's crowds, I'm not bothered in the slightest. I've always been interested by attendances and have been posting about them on this board for many years - long before the Emperor arrived at the club - but I'm not 'bothered' about them at all. Interested, certainly. Bothered, certainly not.
It amuses me how precious some of you are, though. God forbid anyone should have an opinion if it doesn't tally with yours.....
We clearly lost a good number of die hard fans through the rebrand, and thus they've stopped going and have had an effect.
However, the crap PL season, OGS, Slade and Trollope are all factors in people staying away, as well as South Wales' football public possibly being the ficklest bunch anywhere in the country, and it has been that was for as long as I can remember. We had Jason Koumas putting in one of the best individual seasons I've ever seen and we had 8k for Ipswich at home because we were mid table.
I can only think of three seasons which match this one in terms of the chances of Premier league/Division One football through automatic promotion in the time I've been supporting the club - 1970/71, 2010/11 and 2012/13. The average crowds for those seasons were 21,535, 23,194 and 22,999 respectively according to this;-
http://european-football-statistics....nclub/carc.htm
The average attendance for this season so far is 18,886, a miserable fourteenth best in the Championship. I suppose if we were to go up automatically, that figure would get pretty close to the attendance for 70/71 at least, but it's hard to see us matching the two seasons from this decade.
To be fair, I do whine a lot about the club - but the club mean(t) a lot to me and it will again. To be fair Cardiff are also winning a lot these days too - my whining is consistent and is not related to Cardiffs success.
Going back to some of the other points - there were some large crowds last night. 25000 for a mid table clash at Norwich. 18k at hapless Brum.
It would be crazy for anyone to say that the loss of crowds is down purely to the rebrand and/or Tan. I've never claimed that, despite accusations that I have. Talking of accusations, You also accused me on a forum I don't post on (but you're not obsessed, really you're not) of going in the PL season - for the record I didn't attend a single PL game. I attended some marches though.
It is equally crazy for people to claim that the rebrand has had a negligible effect.
The data sets are there. Compare 2011/12 with this season. Crowds went up in the first red season (I was there for many games) but a few of the old gang around me were losing interest. A few of us stopped after Brighton - I watched 2 more games the last being Charlton. People here boasted that the likes of TLG and Ken Smith (who both handed in their season tickets in Summer 2012 something I wish I had done) would be easily replaced. And, they were (I think Ken Smith actually replaced hisself for the PL fun). Until relegation from the EPL then both the replaceds and the replacers were nowhere to be seen.
Alfie Sherwood, Thames Valley Blue, Jordi Cule - just some posters alongside TLG who no longer go because of the rebrand. People still dispute that these people exist.