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We'd all be happy if we just survive in 17th place by 1 point or 1 goal difference.
But we've got to be more positive than that. We aren't some upstart little club from the backwoods of Wales - which is what they will think of us - come to dine at the rich man's table and watch all these big clubs and players showing us how to play the game while they slaughter us.
We've got to assert ourselves and be as tough and strong as we have been this season. The club and manager are making all the right noises about how we're going to play and the transfer policy. We need players who will fight as hard as the current squad, not spoilt brats after a pay day.
We can do better than 17th.
Warnock is the master at controlling expectations.By saying that he knows then anything more and we are creaming ourselves.
17th first season all day long.
Apparently of those promoted clubs who survive the first year in the premier league, the majority are then relegated in their second season.
Complacency maybe?
I'd take 17th an build from there
If Burnley can get to 7th then any of the 14 teams below can do so.
All 14 clubs will strengthen their squads.
Some teams (such as mini-league 1) will be more attractive than others to sign for due to history, wages offered & location.
Mini-league 1: Everton, Newcastle, West Ham, (Villa)
Mini-league 2: Leicester, Burnley, Bournemouth, Southampton, Wolves, (Fulham)
Mini-league 3: Crystal Palace, Watford, Brighton, Huddersfield, Cardiff, (Middlesboro)
Getting anything from the top 6 teams will be a huge bonus.
Getting points against ML1 teams will be a bonus.
The majority of our points will come against ML2 & ML3 teams so as I see it (if Villa are not promoted) then we will be vying for the best position we can out of 11 teams.
We have as good a chance as many of finishing in 10th ... so I would not be 'happy' with 17th.
I think Cardiff will finish 16th, I think they wil surprise teams, and turn over one of tne big 6 at home, a lot of these teams won’t know what’s hit them, yes of course there will be some heavy defeats on the way, I can see arsenal getting well beat in Cardiff
Not if Ramsey's playing.
He'll get his usual standing ovation every time he touches the ball and the CCS will go mental when he scores.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...gainst-Cardiff
Hilts is right, there’s the top six and anyone can come 7th! No one would have said Burnley at the beginning of season, they are a much smaller club than us,we are in the top 10 with regards to Stadium capacity and Fanbase so let’s get 10th place in our first season before we attack top 6?