Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
You've made your point about the negative comments before, we get it and good on you for thinking that way, though how you can make the last point I don't know. Do you know every poster personally?

I see nothing wrong with having a swipe at our arch rivals every four years, especially when we are not involved.
England doing badly means a lot to people who love and watch football, probably as much to those that are English and love the game. For years we have had to suffer condescending comments and biased propaganda on our tv screens.

Regarding their chances, I think they are playing it down, and quite cunningly.
Struggled to break down "lesser opposition" Tunisia as did Germany and Spain, but got 3 points to ease the pressure.

We have seen it before, scrape a few wins and a team will grow in confidence.
I expect them to qualify and progress but that shouldn't stop people looking for negatives, it's the next best thing to Wales qualifying...

Let's have them out ASAP!
Whether it's a World Cup or a European Championships, it's so much more enjoyable when they've been knocked out. The tournament can then be enjoyed for what it is. Some of the tosh that was being spouted before, during and after last night's game was incredible.

Someone mentioned "chip on the shoulder" earlier. There are obviously some decent, level-headed English football fans - I know a few - but others (including the majority of the media) have a huge superiority complex when it comes to the national football team; a real sense of entitlement when the supposed smaller fish don't roll over and let England win. As a Welshman, I can't stand the constant hype we are subjected to at times like these and as you say, it does mean a lot to me when they fail. I get more pleasure from seeing City and Wales win, but I do love a good old English sporting post-mortem. Hopefully we'll have another one very soon.