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I’ve seen talk that they could have had 2.
I remember the one shout which seemed like a dive but can’t remember another one.
Didn’t see MOD, so have no idea.
Did we get lucky ?
If the boot had been on the other foot we would definitely be claiming we were robbed of 2 penalties.
I thought if given they would have been very harsh , so thankfull we won ,we do we want to win today Wolves are 5 points above Newcastle 1 point below.
Yes two penalties they should’ve had.
Although the Redmond one makes me laugh and that’s similar to Chopra’s foul against the Jacks 10 years ago.
How can you give a penalty, a free shot at goal, when the person who was fouled is heading away from goal at the corner of the penalty box, posing no threat to the goal whatsoever?
Not much of an appeal for the second one which though on the very edge of the box looked like Manga's boot caught Redmond. The theatrical one got what it deserved.
Southampton seemed a lot less fired up than on their previous visit to Wales. It's amazing what checking into a nice hotel you booked and being allowed to park your team coach 5 yards from the players entrance can do to take the edge out of the opposition!
Probably the best answer given above by Hamish, we'd have been pissed off if we'd not got them.
Having said that both Valery & Armstrong should have received reds for accumulated yellows and they didn't show the push in the back on Morrison or the shirt holding by Romeu both which could have pelanties on another day.
Funny enough this was a debate I was having last week with a few friends.
I remember playing and getting indirect free kicks for fouls on me rather than pens.
Just because a foul is committed in the box doesn't necessarily mean it should be a penalty, according the the laws of the game.However, indirect free kicks are rare as Refs tend to give a penalty for any infringement, which is actually not right.
Here are some examples and a description of when Refs should give indirect free kicks instead of penalties.
https://www.myactivesg.com/Sports/Fo...in-penalty-box
In terms of the Southampton incidents I feel it would have been harsh to give pens.. it would be interesting to see what VAR does next season with those incidents. It does make up for the lack of a pen against Everton.
On a related issue is anyone else bemused by the number of times Morrison is wrestled to the ground in opposition boxes?
Just watched them over and for me Armstrong has dived.
Redmond one though should have been given, definite trip, although he didn’t help himself with his exaggeration!
The Sky guys tended to agree. Although there wasn’t much of an appeal from Southampton
On the other hand there was 2 pushes on Morrison at one corner, both of which should really have led Ron a penalty to us.
We really should have scored 3/4 more and Southampton were poor.
Also the commentators loved our support, commenting a few times on the atmosphere and backing
One other thing. Patterson did well to stay on his feet for the goal, he could have gone down and got the defender sent off or got us a penalty but was strong and honest and got his reward
Contact so it should have been a penalty ?? I hate it when I hear that , contact happens all the time all over the pitch , if that was the case play would be stopped every 10 secs ,it is only a pen if the contact was deemed sufficient to cause a foul And in both cases especially the first when he just threw himself over the leg it wasn’t, so no pens
Anyway I’ve seen more clear cut pens that should have been awarded to us that weren’t given
Both shouts were in the corner of the box heading away from goal.
Any referee would have thought long and hard before giving the first one and his dramatic throwing himself to the floor decided J Moss against it.
Then the second one looked more innocuous but I think was a penalty but I think the referee just thought they are getting desperate throwing themselves on the ground all the time.
So all in all they brought the second decision against them on themselves.
Watch the Newcastle game today. If they give those incidents as penalties we will have at least 5.
The first was a dive. He was already on his way down before any possible contact with Camarasa's leg.
The second could have been given.
There were two or three debatable incidents at the other end where we could have got a decision too - and didn't.
Moss was favouring Southampton with most of his calls until Paterson's goal. Playing advantage as he did was excellent refereeing and sort of balanced out his previous bias.
Deserved win.
Surely not? I base this on i) refs in football have a strange idea of advantage where they very rarely pull play back even if no advantage has been gained and ii) the penalty decision would have trumped foul in midfield.
I thought Armstrong was on his way down but reckless of Camarassa to leave leg trailing to be fallen over. Manga's was going away from the goal but far more significant contact made. I'd want them if it was my side attacking and suggest they were too soft if it was my side defending.
Armstrong dived, that was probably still on the ref's mind when Redmond went down theatrically
I thought they were both pens. If they’d happened to us and not given I’d be fuming.