TOBW, when the UK joined the EEC in 1973, what vote were the youngsters of the time given to voice their opinion of membership, were the youngsters of yesteryear not so important as the youngsters of today ? a positive was given in 1975 to continue to stay in the EEC by 67%, again we are still talking about the EEC, an economic community who enticed the UK by distributing adverts of the milk and butter mountains, still no talk of trade deals, EU armies, political union, when did the UK ever vote to go into something that the UK voted to leave ?, the voting system may not be fair but I'm not old enough to know it to be any different to what it is today and since my eligibility to vote, has always been tied to this system subsequently, I have never voted Tory but have had to accept the governments of Margaret Thatcher, as a youngster I stood outside greenway junior school for a day canvassing voters for Jim Callaghan during this Particular Election, the 79 election was the 1st i was old enough to vote in, discounting Heath as i was only 9 when he came to power, I then had to stomach John Major, David Cameron and now Theresa May and at no time was i able to say I want a revote because i didn't like the winner using the implemented system, during these times how many voters went armed to the polls in 100% full knowledge of what they were voting for?, if we were lucky, you might have been able to get a glance of a 5 page manifesto. I can run with the hare or hunt with the hounds on this issue, I didn't vote but would have voted leave if a vote was mandatory , this should have been the easiest of win for the remain side of the argument but instead of getting the positive message out they reverted to type and just attacked the leave side of the argument forgetting the positives in their deck of cards. The remain side (self-acclaimed leaders of the movement) have no one to blame other than themselves, they let the 40 odd % down with their ineffective campaign, Wales was in the top 3 regions of the amount of investment from the EU but voted to leave, reverting to type the boyos have been branded racist, thick etc. etc. I tend to think that Wales just said after generations of Welsh have known nothing but poverty despite EU investment and seeing prosperity in other parts of the UK, that's it, we have had enough of this, we don't know what life will be outside the EU, but we are willing to give it a try having been left behind whilst in the EU. If we have another vote, I'll note vote again either, I do agree it is a youngster’s issue, but it isn't now or ever was the system. Whatever happens, and i don't believe despite the rhetoric that the UK will get a divorce. the fallout will last for generations, this won’t go away in a few months, with the internet, world events can no longer be hidden and its plain to see, the world is going into some sort of reset, like the majority I would guess on this MB, I have children and grandchildren and worry intensely for their futures but will not get into, it’s their fault mentality, if it’s IMO a good or bad policy I don’t care which side it comes from, the days of blinded loyalty for me are gone, just like the football, I don’t want the city to lose, if they lose then it’s no big deal and onto the next day. Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson, Jeremy Corbyn, it isn’t going to get any better in the short to medium term!!!!!. You have a few years on me and would probably recall the events of joining the EEC better than me, but I don’t think the youngsters were given a vote which excluded the grippers of the time so I’m not sure any different rules should be in play now, although if it was changed would just go along with the flow as I generally have throughout the years.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
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