Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
Do you actually want people with whom you disagree to **** themselves with a bayonet rifle? The irony of you condemning gun violence in the USA while wishing it on people that disagree with you on a football message board.

America’s foreign policy under Obama and SOS Clinton has resulted in the deaths of millions of innocents. That figure dwarfs the number of gun honicides in the USA. Most of those deaths are gang related. Of course every death is tragic and spree shootings are terrible but we have terrorism here too with our strict gun laws. We also had Derek Bird killing at least 10 people with a shotgun in 2010. Even if the US introduced much stricter gun laws criminals would continue to use illicit guns, and spree shooters would use legal shotguns and hunting rifles.

Not every problem has a solution. Spree shootings are a social/cultural problem in the US that will not go away by restricting gun sales. Entrenched political positions in a polarised population are giving crazy people the ‘justification” to commit these deeds with a ready audience on the web/social media to cement their notoriety.

Back to your wish for me and other CCMB members to kill ourselves in a gruesome way. It is an absolutely disgusting thing to write and if you feel no shame about writing it then you are clearly deranged.
F**king hell. You've gone from missing the point to being offended in a flash there.

Why is the trope of "there will still be murders without strict gun controls" always trotted out? Of course there will... but will the numbers be significantly fewer with tighter restrictions on purchasing and owning guns? The answer is a resounding yes. How many people would have been killed this weekend in the States if those terrorists didn't have automatic weapons which no civilian has any legitimate cause to carry? Even if they were just carrying handguns, the mortalilty rate could have been reduced. Spree shootings would also be reduced if these right-wing murderers only had "shotguns" or "hunting rifles". In the time it would take to shoot and reload weapons of their caliber, these shooters could get get off an entire magazine, potentially killing dozens of people.

Advocates of gun control aren't expecting to end shootings or murders - it's about reducing them to a level where we're not reading about innocent people being gunned down while they're going about their lives on a regular basis.

If there were tighter gun controls, that would mean a reduction in the production of firearms - which, logically, would make it harder to purchase one (legally or illegally).

Since you're so troubled by my remark - of course I don't wish that upon you... but if you genuinely think that history and tradition is more important than reducing the loss of innocent lives, then the 'go f**k yourself' part still stands.